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Old 05-09-2012, 11:49 AM   #1 
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In a 30gallon tank could I have a pleco, a Ram Cichlid, a couple cories, a couple swordtails and maybe a few zebra danios?
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In a 30gallon tank could I have a pleco, a Ram Cichlid, a couple cories, a couple swordtails and maybe a few zebra danios?
Bolivian ram could work, but the German blue Ram would not be good fit with the fish you mention due to it's need for soft warm water,(80 to 84 degree's F) and the other fishes you mention, requiring hard cool water(swordtail's, Danios).
Cory's need to be in groups of five or more, for they are social fish that enjoy other member's of their species to feel comfortable/secure.
They appreciate soft to moderately hard water, not much warmer than 76 degree's F.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:15 PM   #3 
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Thanks! My grandma is letting me keep fish at her house if I clean out her tank lol. It needs LOTS of work! My grandpa had bullheads in it, so yeah I have lots of cleaning if my future!
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In a 30gallon tank could I have a pleco, a Ram Cichlid, a couple cories, a couple swordtails and maybe a few zebra danios?
I would do One Male Bolivian Ram as the Cichlid as said above the Blue Ram is a bit harder to keep.

I would have more than a couple of cories because they are schooling fish. I would suggest 5 at the least.

Instead of swordtails (livebearer) and danios (Cyprinidae), I would suggest something different like rasbora or characins which are more suitable for your Ram.

The Ram likes peaceful conditions and will be your centerpiece fish. A nice school of rasboras or characins would do great.

Neon Tetra
Cardinal Tetra
Buenos Aires Tetra
Bloodfin Tetra
Harlequin Rasbora
Hengels Rasbora
Eyespot Rasbora

I would get at the VERY least 6 of one species. I would only get one species. Ideally I would get 8-10 to make them comfortable. They will be happier in larger groups.

I have 11 Neons, 1 Bolivian Ram, 1 Albino Bristlenose, 4 Bronze Cory (2 died I used to have 6...i should have at least one more but their fine for now...I willl eventually get another one).

What are your water parameters?

This tank is not set up yet?

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I have no clue what the parameter is. I don't know if my grandparents know? No the tank is not set up yet, I still have to clean it. Thanks for the info! I am still in the process of thinking about what to put in the tank.
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I have no clue what the parameter is. I don't know if my grandparents know? No the tank is not set up yet, I still have to clean it. Thanks for the info! I am still in the process of thinking about what to put in the tank.
A city water report will sometimes have this information.

You want to look for the full report and not just the toxins.
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The water is well water. We haven't had a problem with it. She has a Betta that has well water and he is thriving!
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The water is well water. We haven't had a problem with it. She has a Betta that has well water and he is thriving!
Yes,

Bettas are very hardy.

The test kits are kind of pricey but IMO I would find out what your parameters are before getting any sensitive fish like Cichlids.

If you want to try it the BOlivian Ram will tolerate the most water parameters while giving you the most option of tank mates. The Krinbensis is also another good option but you cannot keep other Cichlids with it.

Good luck though :)
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How much would the Bolivian Ram cost me? My grandma is buying me these fish and I'm sure she won't want to spend a lot. So if I got 6 cories, one pleco, a ram, some neon and bloodfin tetras about how much would that be?
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How much would the Bolivian Ram cost me? My grandma is buying me these fish and I'm sure she won't want to spend a lot. So if I got 6 cories, one pleco, a ram, some neon and bloodfin tetras about how much would that be?
If I were you I would take a water sample to your local pet shop and have them test for your water hardness. Get them to tell you the gH and kH. They will do it for free.

My Honest Opinion: I think you should choose between either the bloodfins or the neons. I think it is better to have one large school than two smaller ones. The fish will be happier for it. Also, keeping a school with less than 5 fish is stressful and a small school of 6 fish would not look that great schooling around. Both for aesthetic purposes and fish health I recommend you pick one species.

This is very important because if you don't have the right water, the fish wont be healthy and could die.

Once you find these numbers then we can really tell you if it is a good idea to keep these fish. Please do that before buying the fish.

The Bolivian Ram and the Bristlenose Pleco will cost $6-$8 each depending on your shop. I've seen them as low as $4 before.

Cory's and Neons cost between $1 each to $3 depending on sales.

DO NOT BUY A COMMON PLECO - Attains anywhere from 12 to 20 inches. TOO big.

Before getting the fish you want to set the tank up and cycle it. Excluding the neons, these are all more fragile fish that cannot handle a cycle and WILL die if you try to do an fish in cycle.

I don't know how much experience you have in this.

You can seed the new tank with bacteria in the gravel of an already established tank (your betta tanks). Once the tank is cycled and you have everything stabled I would go get All 6 corys to put in the tank. DO NOT get all the fish at once or it will shock the system and you will loose fish.

Live plants help this process by soaking up ammonia and other nitrogens.

Once you add the cory, wait a week and test your water to make sure ammonia and nitrite are at 0.

IF levels are stable you can go back and get a bristlenose pleco and the 6 neons. I would only get 6 neons at a time so as to not shock the system.

Wait a week. Get the other 6 neons.

Wait another week and then go back to get the Bolivian Ram.

Each week I would also add more and more plants to the tank (this is assuming you have a local fish store). The plants are very beneficial. Something like Java Fern is low light and grow slow so you wont have to care for it much. It looks beautiful too.

This will be your idea tank:

I hope I didn't give too much info at once but I would really find out more about your water before doing anything about your fish. I would also make sure the tank is cycled before doing anything.

Once everything settles down and if you do get plants....later on down the road you could add maybe 2 more neon tetras or a cory or something.

It is always good to keep stocking levels low while establishing a tank. Especially for the safety and health of the fish.

Do you have a test kit?


API Master Test kit is very reliable. Water based test kits over strips.

Hope this wasn't overwhelming. I'm just trying to make sure you take it slow and consider your water before getting the fish.

Let me know what your LFS says about the water. Once you have given these parameters I can better help you find the right species of cories, tetras and other fish for your water if they aren't suited for these.

Good luck!

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