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Old 05-19-2012, 07:51 PM   #1 
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Unhappy Betta in Trouble?

Hi all, I'm not sure what to do here. Katniss (yes, I named by male Betta Katniss) is a newer fish of mine, of about 2 months, I'd say. He lives in a 1.5gal (biweekly water changes) with plenty of decorations, plants, and toys. However, he just doesn't move! I've never had this problem with my three other boys.

He has shredded his tail, and now he just hides in his log or sits at the bottom of the tank. He doesn't swim around or anything. Even when I move the tank around a little to get him to move (ie: make sure he's not dead), he doesn't move! I'm very concerned here.

I'm familiar with all Betta illnesses, and he has none that I can identify. Definitely not fin rot or ick. I'm at a loss as to what to do! Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:55 PM   #2 
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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:04 PM   #3 
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What size is your tank? 1.5gal
What temperature is your tank? 78
Does your tank have a filter? Yes
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? No
Is your tank heated? Yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? Divided with Calvin, another Betta (he has 1.5gal on his side too) ... they don't bother each other and Calvin is perfectly healthy and happy, and moves around like a normal fish.

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? Hikari Bio Gold
How often do you feed your betta fish? Once a day, 6 pellets

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? Biweekly
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 50%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? occasional aquarium salt

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters? Not lately, but last time everything was perfect.

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? Shredding fins
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? Lethargic
When did you start noticing the symptoms? It's been about 2.5 weeks
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? N/A
Does your fish have any history of being ill? Nope
How old is your fish (approximately)? approx. 2 months of ownership
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:11 PM   #4 
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He just started swimming on his side. Crapppp. ;____;
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:12 PM   #5 
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Aquarium salt should never ever be added. They are strictly fresh water fish, and the added salt can damage their lanrynth organ and other organs eventually leading to sickness or organ failure. I know you will read "add salt to keep your fish healthy" but that is from someone who thinks ALL fish need salt. Try stopping that, and maybe he may perk up.

How dense are the plants and ornaments in there? He may not be "bothered" visually by the other male, but he could be chewing his fins because he is stressed.

eidt: do an immiediate water change. VTW you do not add tap water conditioner? YOU NEED IT :( trust me! it makes it safe for them. Keep the salt OUT and conditioner IN.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:15 PM   #6 
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any fuzzies on him?
try doing a water change
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:17 PM   #7 
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Oh definitely I use water conditioner! API Stress Coat. If this is happening to Katniss, is Calvin in danger?

Also maybe I'm using the wrong name, but it's a freshwater de-stresser that was recommended to me by people on this board.

EDIT: no fuzzies
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:20 PM   #8 
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Okay, just making sure LOL! whew :) okay, I would separate them... Just to see, do a water change, like, massive water change (100%), removing the sick one. I would float him in a container, in the tank.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:23 PM   #9 
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I will, thanks! Any idea what's wrong with him? I've seen this progress before in a friend's fish... exact same thing, hiding, swimming on his side... I had to euthanize him for her. I really don't want to lose my fish. ;;
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:25 PM   #10 
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Did they use salt as well? It could be the aftermath. Some fish surprisingly have no problem with it, others have mild reactions, and others, can suffer severely resulting in premature death.

Are his scales sticking up? Just making sure they aren't.
Check the inside of his gills... are they: red, pink, black, fuzzy, slimy?
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