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Old 05-22-2012, 04:16 AM   #1 
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My beta fish is dying....

I dont want to lose my friend but I am not allowed to buy any strong off store shelves antibiotics ( father wont allow me to). He is already in bad condition from a bacterial infection and he is starting to swim sideways and backwards ( swim bladder?)... is it too far from recovery?









I want to cry.....
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:28 AM   #2 
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If it IS swim bladder, that is easy to cure but from what you posted it can be any number of things. Also can you get a picture?
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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:39 AM   #3 
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fins raggedy
losing color
stripes of silver on his right side
on his bottomr fins, near his body, it is a rust red
I do not know how old the fish is because i recieved it as a birthday present last year on July 28
I am currently trying to fix my beta with bettafix by API
I feed my fish BettaMin:tropical medley by Tetra
I have not tested the water
i use drinking water and i treat it with novaaqua plus water conditioner
I usually change 25% to 50% of the water
Today i changed 50% of the water
There are not tank mates
I feed my beta every four to five days
He is currently in a bowl
he has a ten gallon tank that has a filter
there are no air stones or any aeration devices
temperature is unknown due to lack of thermometer
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:51 AM   #4 
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:35 AM   #5 
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Quote:
fins raggedy
losing color
stripes of silver on his right side
on his bottomr fins, near his body, it is a rust red
I do not know how old the fish is because i recieved it as a birthday present last year on July 28
I am currently trying to fix my beta with bettafix by API
I feed my fish BettaMin:tropical medley by Tetra
I have not tested the water
i use drinking water and i treat it with novaaqua plus water conditioner
I usually change 25% to 50% of the water
Today i changed 50% of the water
There are not tank mates
I feed my beta every four to five days
He is currently in a bowl
he has a ten gallon tank that has a filter
there are no air stones or any aeration devices
temperature is unknown due to lack of thermometer
I am going to guess the stripes of silver are stress stripes. The guy in my avatar gets silver/white ones too when he is stressed.
be careful with bettafix and do not overdose him, alot of people have claimed it killed their bettas. The main ingredient is a tree oil and it can harm their breathing organ. However, alot of people also claim it's a miracle drug. As long as you follow the directions, he should be OK with the bettafix.

How often did you change the water?

If you look closely at this fish - where his fins are tattered, it's red. I know its kinda hard to see but does it look the same on your fish?


and why do you only feed him every 4 or 5 days? he should be fed a small amount every day or every other day at least.

Can you tell what color his gills are?
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:23 AM   #6 
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Yeah you should probaly feed him alot more a full betta is a healthy betta just like you need food to fight off infections he does to!
also idk if this works havn't tried it before SOMEONE CORRECT ME if I am wrong butputting oak leaves in their water is said to help keep them healthy if you have some by you it probaly would not hurt to try it. Just be sure to rinse them off realy good before putting them in the water.
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:32 AM   #7 
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Yes. Bettas need food to heal. I feed both of mine 4 pellets a day (or the equivalent in FD bloodworms and flakes and things)
Also, varying the deit leads to healthier bettas. (freezed dried blood worms and brine shrimp should be given like once a week as treats)
I also give them one day a week of fasting. Just one small piece of daphnia sunday mornings.
My boys are quite happy and healthy so far. =3

Also. Would you only feed a dog or cat once every five days?
And wouldn't you give them treats too?

Oak leaves can be used, but Indian almond are preferred. It's the tannins that help.

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Old 05-22-2012, 07:00 AM   #8 
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They are virtually the same regarding tannins, having very little differences according to OFL. Using oak leaves is completely okay.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:26 AM   #9 
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Also. you need to get a thermometer and a heater to keep the temperature stable about 76-80 degrees. My boys are in an exact 80 and each have a heater and filter.
Also, by drinking water, do you mean bottled? If so, you should cut it half and half with tap. The bottled water has no buffers to prevent pH swings and that can cause problems.
Also, I'd invest in some way to test the water, to make sure ammonia and whatnot doesn't get too high. I prefer the API master test kit for freshwater, but it's probbly more than your dad will spend. ;-;
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:24 AM   #10 
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If your dad won't let you buy medications..

Maybe the bacterial infection will respond to salt treatments? NOT table salt - aquarium salt, which can help a bit with infection if used for ten days according to the proper instructions (there's info in a sticky and all over the forum on how to do that, basically 1 teaspoon per gallon..)

Though if his swim bladder is an issue, maybe epsom salts? This is a different salt that helps with swelling and bloating, and can't be used with aquarium salt.

Both salt treatments are pretty inexpensive. Have you asked your dad if you can earn the money for the medications by doing extra yard work or something?

Yes, you should be feeding him every day! If you start feeding him more (which you should!) do it slowly... he might bloat with a huge sudden increase.

Is his tank heated? Being too cold will mean he's more prone to infections. Even if you live in a warm area, if it gets cooler at night the fluctuations might be too large... a heater with a thermostat's the only way to keep it steady - you need a heater! Unless you live in the high tropics, like Thailand or northern Australia!

I hope your fishy gets better. And if not - don't give up! You'll learn a LOT about betta care here, so stick around and read everything. :)
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