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Old 06-09-2012, 08:34 AM   #11 
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I was told algae eaters have a huge bio load, and many need more than 10 gallons. Plus I'm going to agree that that's overstocked, I wouldn't do more than 7 or 8 fish of any sort in a 10 gallon.
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Old 06-09-2012, 08:47 AM   #12 
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Are you sure you need an algae eater? Otos often starve to death because people think they are getting enough food from just algae.. Some times they don't eat it at all. Nerite snails are your best bet for algae...
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Actually an otos main diet is consisted of aquarium algae, this is one if the reasons they starve, because there isn't a sufficient supply of algae. They need tremendous amounts of algae. It would be hard to maintain this as in a heavily planted tankmates the nutrients this algae thrives in will be eaten, and used by the plants
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:38 AM   #13 
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Ask Sakura about her otos... They only eat fish food and her tank is over run with algae. They poop tons and she wants them gone, lol.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:50 AM   #14 
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Okay, so I've reduced stock. I am going to get 8 females and a handful of ghost shrimp. I don't have access to any snails other than Apple (Mystery) Snails that Petsmart sells. I'd like to use Eco Complete Planted Black Aquarium Substrate that Petco sells for the plants but with pea gravel on top for aesthetics. Can I do that or will it hurt the plants? I've never done a planted aquarium before and since I am downsizing from my 8 tanks to this one small tank, I want something that will occupy me as far as trimming the plants and such. I will be using no filter (plants will do that job) and a small heater. It's been a while since I've kept Bettas and my room stays very cold. What temperature will let the plants and the girls thrive? I'd also like to look into preparing their food rather than buying it. Throw me all of the information you all can give. Do I have to use Eco Complete Planted Black Aquarium Substrate or can I just use my gravel and liquid fertilizer? Will I need the Apple snail?
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:56 AM   #15 
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Ask Sakura about her otos... They only eat fish food and her tank is over run with algae. They poop tons and she wants them gone, lol.
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What kind of algae, they have vey specific diets that consist mainly of algae, cucumber, etc. they might not be eating the algae as its the wrong type
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:20 AM   #16 
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If you are really sure you are doing live plants and it is your first time, you are gonna meet a lot of challenges, I did. You also need to know that Ecocomplete needs the use of other fertilizers as well and root tabs. That will be a lot of money just for plant food, then add some good lights. For my sorority I have easily spent $300-400 in 6 months.

Reconsider your stocking plans again, bettas need space, the less space they have the more problems you have, max it at 6. I have 5 bettas in my 15 gallon, they love the space they have, don't cramp bettas together in one tank and expect it to work out.

Do you know how a sorority works? How you need it setup?

I am just asking these questions because it takes effort to make them happy. If you want you can PM me and we can talk more about it. You can also see my sorority in my album just to see how dense a sorority should be.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:35 AM   #17 
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Lol I don't know ask her yourself. She has every type of algae imaginable though, lol.

Anyways, you CAN do 8 betta in a 10 gallon.. However this does add a lot of complexity. Lot's of people keep over stocked sororites on here just fine.
If you haven't bought the tank yet, maybe consider 15 gallons?
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:50 AM   #18 
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I already have the tank. The woman at Petsmart (like the Wikipedia of fishkeepers) said as long as I used my peagravel and liquid plant food and fertilizer I would be fine. I am purchasing a floral light for the tank as well. Can I stick to my gravel or do I really need another substrate?
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:53 AM   #19 
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Most pro aquascapers swear by pea gravel, you'll be fine. It really doesn't need any sort of special enrichment. If you get a nice light though, combined with ferts it'll help growth.
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What kind of fertilizers do I need? Will the API liquid food and fertilizers suffice?
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