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Old 06-02-2012, 12:00 PM   #1 
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Reducing Ammonia

Either last night or a coupla days ago ammonia was .5 and now it a 1.0

I've been doing 30% water changes just about everyday or every other day.

Other tank readings are:
Nitrate: between 0/20. VERY light pink
Nitrite: 0
Hardness: 150
Clhlorine: 0
Alkalinity: 120
PH: 7.8

His monthly vacuum is the 11th. Should I just go ahead and do a vacuum along with another 30% change?

ETA: he has no other tank mates/he has been looking rather unhappy today. Fins have been closed, he lays around in his tank.
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:28 PM   #2 
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ETA: just did a 20-30% water change

Would adding a plant help reduce the ammonia?
IF I can add a plant, can it wait about 4-5 days for fertilizer?

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Old 06-02-2012, 01:49 PM   #3 
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What tank size? I might be able to help.
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:58 PM   #4 
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Good question Jessi...we need more info...tank size, filter, how long has the tank been setup, substrate and how deep, stocking, type of additives used, type of test products.....and filter media care....changing, cleaning...etc....

Have you tested the source water prams and what is the source water...

Depending on the answers......but generally in a filtered tank you need to be vacuuming in all areas that can be reached without moving anything...Weekly......

Depending on the plant species, stocking level...it may or may not help with ammonia issues...
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:25 PM   #5 
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I know the test strips you are using! (I think) they always read nitrate too low

I suggest API liquid test kit, more accurate, better value

and if there is a fish, thent he amonia came from the fish! is the tank cycled? If so, have you used any meds that may affect bacteria?
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:27 PM   #6 
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stupid me. I know better than to not supply every lil detail :P

5.5 gallons
setup has been running since Feb of this year
filtered tank. I usually vacuum once a month to pick up all his poos
sand substrate about 1-1.5" deep
Spike is the only stock in there. I've been wanting to get some live plants, hopefully here real soon.
I used those testing stripes you get from petsMart
filter media is a sponge/I usually just swish it around in old tank water during weekly water changes.
water changes are usually 30-40% every week and 50% with vacuum monthly.

water source......meaning where his water comes from?
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:27 PM   #7 
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I know the test strips you are using! (I think) they always read nitrate too low
I am quite aware of this product. Been wanting to get it, but cannot afford it.

And I am very aware that ammonia comes from fish
The very likely cause of this ammonia spike it from hubs "helpful nature" of adding a pleco to get rid of my brown algae.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:30 PM   #8 
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ok, well master kit is only a bit more

anyway, once a month is not often enough for a water change, do at least once a week, esp cuz nitrate shock can killl them. if u do a large one.

Also, a plant does not need fertilizer if it is eating the amonia in the tank, and I suggest multiple plants.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #9 
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I was told from someone on here whom everyone respects....really don't remember whom....my water change schedule.
she/or he said to do 30% every week/50% with vacuum monthly.

need to go back/find the thread that stated it.


ETA: the water change has dropped the ammonia down to .5
Would it stress Spike too much if I did a vacuum?
There really does not look to be alotta poos. Maybe 1-3 of them.

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Old 06-02-2012, 03:16 PM   #10 
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The test strips are fine..some brands better than others...I like to use the strips for quick checks....but for accurate numbers I like to use liquid reagent type.

Water changes on the 5.5gal filter....50% weekly with vacuum in all areas you can reach without moving anything.
Filter media needs a swish/rinse in the bucket of old tank water a couple of times a month.

Vacuuming and water changes weekly-are important not just for the waste/mulm/debris you can see and/or test for-but for other organics, DOC's that we can't see or test for....

Source water...yes where it comes from...city water, well water...etc....

What kind of additives are you using...some of the additives can cause false positive ammonia reading as well as higher levels of chloramine in the source water.....

How is the Betta acting....any changes....the fish are the best water testers along with observation....

The 5.5gal will not provide enough space for any other fish along with the Betta...especially a pleco...depending on the species they can get over 2ft and the BN pleco can get 5-6in and will need at least 20gal.

For the brown algae or diatoms-rub it off and vacuum out weekly with your water changes....
Since the tank is established-the diatoms may be due to either-old light bulb or light on too long without live plants or not on long enough or the partition between the light and water dirty, or high organics/DOC's and/or nitrate...

Without live plants-at least 6h/day PP-no longer than 8h/day PP, if the light bulb is over 12mo old-change it, check the partition and clean if needed and weekly vacuum.
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