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Old 06-26-2012, 07:56 PM   #1 
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Betta fungus! Rapid decline

I recently bought a healthy betta. I put him in a 3 gallon tank (uncycled) and he was doing very well. He built a bubble nest after a day and was very active and ate like a horse. Yesterday I added an African Dwarf Frog. about 12 hours later (when i came home from work) my betta had developed a large clump of fungus. There are two spots, one the size of a dime on his left flank, the other a small spot on his other side. He is gasping for air and almost twitching? The frog was (i thought) dead and was stuck in the filter. He turned out to be still barely alive. I immediately separated them and put them both in separate containers in newly dechlorinated water. The frog was defenitely the trigger, but the community tank he was in looked healthy. My betta got very sick very quickly and i don't want to lose him! HELP! Sorry for the bad pic, I could only get the smaller patch.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:07 PM   #2 
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is the tank filtered?and how often do you do water changes?
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The tank has a filter. I had only had them in there for a few days so i hadn't done a water change yet. I got a picture of his other side. The frog died about fifteen minutes ago.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:23 PM   #4 
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oh man im sorry to hear about your frog.i thought of getting one myself but havent yet.

any tank smaller than 5 gallons cant be cycled.the frog.and im not saying it is but could have been infected with something.im not too sure on sickness of frogs and what they can or cant carry..

i would do about a 25% water change for now..he is mot likely stressed from adapting to his new home.as well as having a new tank mate in there.

as i look at the picture.im not certain but is his scales popping out?it doesnt look smooth from what i can see.
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:33 PM   #5 
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Actually, Tanks under 5 Gallons can be Cycled. It's just Harder than usual since in a Tank so small, Ammonia can build up too quickly.
Here's Info about Fungus Infections:
True Fungal Infections
•Symptoms: White cottony like patches on its body or head, Lethargic, Not eating, Clamped Fins, Pale Colors
•Treatment: Conservative: Lower temperature below 76* F and treat with Aq.Salt at 1 tsp/gal. Increase water changes to 100% daily. Replace accurate amount of salt following water changes. Never continue salt treatments for more than 10 days. Medication: If Conservative treatment is ineffective after 10 days or you see the fungus spread rapidly during the course of conservative treatment, move to medication. Add “Fungus Eliminator” by Jungle, API Erythromycin, API Fungus Cure, API Triple Sulfa, OR Mardel’s Maracyn II. Change water every day and add a new dose of the same medication. Continue until all fungus has disappeared.

Hope he gets better. Good Luck!!!
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:35 PM   #6 
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No his scales are smooth, I don't think its dropsy. His breathing seems a bit less laboured since i did a total water change. I think I'll do at least 50% a day and add salt tomorrow (don't have any atm and its too late to buy). I don't want to over medicate if i don't have to.
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yes i read they can its just not as easy so i said it cant...

i would think a fungus infection because of water quality.i went through it.i was going to suggest to add some aquarium salt..and to keep doing water changes.especially now we dont know exactly what it is and the best medication for him is water changes.

i agree not to over medicate.some of my girls died because i wasnt thinking and kept adding meds to my 10 gallon instead of treating them in my 1 gallon hospital tank.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:05 PM   #8 
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have you read this sticky yet http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=90086 ? it kinda looks like that but i really really hope not. i hope he gets better soon
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:27 AM   #9 
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I woke up to a very dead fish. I have a stinking feeling it was this new mystery disease...
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:47 AM   #10 
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I'm so sorry for your loss.

IMO, I don't think this is the new mystery disease. Instead, I think it is a particularly virulent strain of Columnaris. I lost 3 of my 4 sorority girls in less than 24 hours to this--in a spotlessly clean tank, mind you. SCARY to watch. Hard to fix without immediate heavy-duty meds like one of the Maracyns (I can't remember which at the moment--it's late)--and even then its really iffy, because this strain of Columnaris moves so FAST.

If you decide to use the same home for a new betta someday, MAKE SURE you've made SURE that you've cleaned and disinfected everything.
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