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#1 ·
As some of you know, I am looking into getting some females. I have been looking on Aquabid and have found a few I like. So, I am looking for opinions from you all on which are good and if any are overpriced. Please keep in mind that I am looking for females for breeding.
Very open to all opinions. If you happen to come across something you think I might like, feel free to show me.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1341458485 A marble dragon
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1341265397 Green
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1341486018 Fancy koi. Says it is female, but I have doubts.
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashm&1341336014 Red dragon HM. I think her anal fin is a bit long.
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettasct&1341368066 Black copper CT.
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettasct&1341439308
 
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I will answer all of these from a breeders point of view.

This female is a very nice one. The only flaws I see on her is that he caudal looks uneven and is a bit rounded. It's wider on the top half. Also her anal fin is shorter than most of which I've seen. That's not a huge deal though so overall she is really nice. The wide dorsal is very nice and really good for breeding. As nice as she is, I personally don't think she's worth that much. Not even a pair should be more than $60-$65 (not including importing). I would hold off on her.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1341458485 A marble dragon

Now this female is nice As well formwise. Also the same reasons. Looking for wide dorsals are very ideal and benefitting. Though that female's caudal doesn't have the full 180 spread. She is also priced reasonably.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1341265397 Green

Well she is most definitely a female. She looks to be a very fascinating female because of her thickened body. Her wide dorsal is one of my favorites as well. The caudal is what bothers me most. It's also uneven just like the first female's. It's wide on the top half? The caudal is also just a bit smaller than is should be. That's not a bad flaw or anything. She is overall a very nice breeder. Good price on her.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashmp&1341486018 Fancy koi. Says it is female, but I have doubts.

Yes. This female's anal fin Is long. Too long for my taste. I really don't like to see HMs with long anal fins because in my own personal opinion, it throws off the entire fish and looks to be a big flaw in the fish. Her dorsal almost looks like she is a DT geno. Reasonably priced.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettashm&1341336014 Red dragon HM. I think her anal fin is a bit long.

I Personally don't like this female very much. Her caudal is very uneven. It's wide on the bottom half and taller on the top half. She would make a nice pet, but IMO, not breeding quality. I'd stay away from her, though the price is reasonable.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettasct&1341368066 Black copper CT.

This is a male:). IMO a nice one, but he does have a few flaws. His anal fin is uneven. The farther back side (closest to the caudal) is Shorter than the front half (closest to his Ventrals). His dorsal appears to be messy, but a look closer looks fine. I really like CTs and this male looks very nice both in color and form.

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwbettasct&1341439308

I really like your choice of fish. Some are better than others of course, but looking for wide dorsals and even fins will get you very far. From what I said about these females and male, you should be able to tell what to look for if you choose to still look for more.
 
#3 ·
Sorry, don't like the females. I like the red drgn but realized that it was HM .... so; no.

When shopping for CT, look for the ones that have straight, strong rays. Don't get floppy fin rays because this will most probably be passed onto offspring.
 
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#11 ·
What are your goals? What males do you have (sorry, short memory - I know you've posted them somewhere).

The second female is currently half giant size (6cm) - Do you have a male that big? She has good 4 rays but is still too traditional. When buying giants - ask for age. 4 months means she has growing ahead of her. But 6 months means not much growing.

The last one is a wild type - not a splenden..... in case you didn't know.

Things I look for in females:
1. pointy edged caudal (optional, depending on male)
2. minimum 4 ray (must)
3. Big/long dorsal, up right or fan like appearance (must)
4. balanced according to type/classification
5. big end body (where caudal grows) (optional)
6. Overall appearance.

I may over look some points (except 4 ray minimum) if the male compliments them.
 
#12 ·
This is my list of males:
- 3 HM dragons. All well balanced.
- 1 HMPK yellow dragon
- 1 Giant HMPK
- 1 marble HMDbT
- 1 metallic HMPK
- 1 green HMPK with orange fins.
I also have one that is blue, black, and cellophane. Very young when I got him and still growing though he is looking more and more like a HM
 
#13 ·
The regulars seems to have unequal and few branching. Look for others that have better branching.

But the giant looks ok though .... not sure about over priced or not .... She has long dorsal (DT geno) and it seems to open fan like. Her caudal is round but she has 4 rays. If the male is a better form, he should compliment her...... her age isn't mentioned. Best ask them if you want a true giant. But if you don't mind a half giant, she is good enough.
 
#17 ·
My half giants flare like crazy against other half giants. They sometimes ignore the smaller regulars. But NONE will care for eggs. When not flaring, they hardly move......

still learning about these guys. I know they can't eat tubifex as it makes them more lazy. Mosquito larva seems to be best, specially when they have to chase it. Water pumps helps keep them active. But i don't have pumps on all my tanks.
 
#18 ·
Uther really likes mosquito larvae and blood worms. I've noticed that he also lets his NLS pellets start sinking and then chases after them. He's always swimming about, especially when I'm near his tank. It's divided in half between him and a HMPK male. Sometimes I find them shadowing each other along the divider.
 
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