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Old 07-07-2012, 11:26 AM   #21 
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Unless the first fish also has a double-tail, I'm thinking some kind of deformed comet. Like I said, I don't know if the double-tail mutation came first or the rounded body mutation came first. It could be that you have a comet with one of those mutations. The second one does looks small. A comet that old should be around 10 inches long.

I don't think you can actually put a breed name on any of them aside from the comet. It's really hard to tell breeds from generic pet store goldfish. They'll sell commons as comets and comets as shubunkins (in a very similar manner as pet store bettas seem to be sold under whatever name the store decides; I recently bought a marble HM giant labled as a HMPK).
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:08 PM   #22 
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oO half moon giant, congrats on the find! I think I' stick with the mutated golsfish label then, lol.
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:33 PM   #23 
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I think that's your best bet: chubby goldfish! The word "chubby" always seems to precede the word "goldfish" in my house!
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:37 PM   #24 
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I think that's your best bet: chubby goldfish! The word "chubby" always seems to precede the word "goldfish" in my house!
Haha, that reminds me of this video on youtube where a lady has a goldfish called chubby, with a chronic swim bladder problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEwx5ASbyvM

Despite his obvious predicament, it's quite funny.

Another question is, one of my fantails seems to have injured it's head. there's a chunk of scales that has been scraped away and I can see his/her brains through a layer of transparent skin :/ should I qt with salt?
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Actually a friend of mine commented on that video! She got the diagnosis right. Floaty as a result of bad quality food. That happened to my first ryukin named "Chubby" and it happened to my current ryukin until I figured out what was wrong and corrected it.

Uhhh. I don't think I would add salt as the scales act as a protective barrier, but if you have a spare cycled 10 gal it might not be a bad idea to move the fish. Did you see the fish injure him/herself? What I would be most worried about is another fish picking on the injured fish. And at the risk of sounding morbid, I'd be interested in seeing a picture if you can get one.
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:( I didn't see him scrape herself, but it seems like a pretty bad scrape. I dont have a spare 10 gal unfortunately. but I did put it in a colander like container of it's own in the pond, just incase it is being picked on. this one doesn't seem to have acclimated as well as the rest from the LFS. Even at the store, it seem to be clumsier than the other fantails. but my mom like the patterning so we bought it. I thought at first it was fungus/ bacteria. but the likelihoods of that occurring in 40F-50F.... I don't know. It looked like scales to me upon closer inspection. I'll take a photo tomorrow.

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Old 07-08-2012, 11:10 AM   #27 
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Isn't that too cold for fantails?
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:13 AM   #28 
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I'm not sure. But our family friend's 5 year old fantails are doing great in their ponds, and they're huggeee
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:45 PM   #29 
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I'm glad that you have the fish separated. That was the next thing I was going to suggest if you didn't have a spare tank. At least that way no other fish can pick on the sick fish. And the others will if they get a chance. I once saw a ryukin take a chunk off of my sick calico fantail's fins. I kinda freaked when I saw that.

That is a bit on the cold side for fancy goldfish. Most goldfish keepers recommend no lower than 60F for fancies because they are much more sensitive than the commons. Some of the more primitive fancy goldfish like plain old fantails might be able to survive lower than that, but I wouldn't want to risk it. Lower temps mean slower immune system. But are you sure the water is that cold? The east coast has been having 80F+ temps for the past month. If it's an outdoor pond, it's not likely to be that cold.

If the fish seemed clumsier at the store, then there could be some other problems with it you can't see. Buying a fish that seems "off" is never good on the wallet as most likely that fish is sick. I'm really interested to see this picture.
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I believe the goldfish are in Australia where it is winter. We've just had a few very cold mornings so I could imagine the water would be pretty cold.

I used to have a fancy goldfish in with my shubunkin downstairs in our non-heated, non-insulated rumpus and the water in that tank would get down below 10 degrees celsius some mornings. Don't know if it was coincidence or not but one morning in winter I came down and my fancy goldfish looked very distressed and I euthanised it the next day.

Also if the friend's pond is bigger than yours it may not be getting as cold as your pond. Or their goldfish could just be hardier. How long has the fish been in the pond? It is usually a good idea to introduce fish to pond life during milder weather as even for goldies it can get pretty nippy, particularly if they are used to living in an aquarium.
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