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Old 07-27-2012, 10:59 PM   #11 
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His prices are very low because they aren't quality IMO. Also, if you were to look at pics of the winning fish, and study the form/standards you would see how bad quality his fish are and how he should NOT have won
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:14 AM   #12 
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thank you guys for your help lololol
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:25 AM   #13 
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I agree
Most of the fish that chard sell look worst then the fish I cull
Fish like that I won't give to my friends
Really bad form
When u really think of the price
U can get one cheaper at a lfs(just sit n wait for new shipment n plus u don't have to pay shipment)
The price u pay is what u get
The Cheaper the fish the lower the quality(most of the time)
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:48 AM   #14 
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I agree
Most of the fish that chard sell look worst then the fish I cull
Fish like that I won't give to my friends
Really bad form
When u really think of the price
U can get one cheaper at a lfs(just sit n wait for new shipment n plus u don't have to pay shipment)
The price u pay is what u get
The Cheaper the fish the lower the quality(most of the time)
Agree 100%
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:34 AM   #15 
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so what do you guys think of this male for the second pair to replace the dtvt



this is the second female hmvt brother and here his bubblenest

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Old 07-28-2012, 11:28 AM   #16 
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hmvt? It can only be Halfmoon or not halfmoon

Halfmoon is defined by 180 degree spread or D formation of the caudal fin. Anything less than that such as vt would not be a halfmoon.

Its kind of hard to be able to tell you if the fins on a VT are good. Simply because there is no show class for VT. So there is no "form" to study from and improve. I believe the "best" would be the spade tail form of VT.

Personally unless you have massive amounts of people who want a VT. This might be a money pit. When breeding VT, you have to remember that people can get them at petco/petsmart for $.99 -$2.00. So you're at the mercy of people in your area because most breeders won't want your fry. If you want to. you could spawn, and control the amount of babies by taking the female out early, and cull hard. That way you end up getting to your personal goal (not entirely sure what your goal for these are it was kind of hard to read) without spending TONS of money on jars and fry food. It will still take alot of time with water changes and culturing food but at least you will have some stress taken off of it.

On all other tail forms

http://bettysplendens.com/articles/home.imp

That is a good site to study from.
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Old 07-28-2012, 01:31 PM   #17 
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He show to much sign of vt.
Personal I won't breed him
Really lacking of fin
If I was u I'll stay away from vt
They sit for to long to sell
When I was breeding vt
I sell them for less then a dallor each
I have a hard time moving them
If a fish sit more then 6 month it been sitting to long
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:05 PM   #18 
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Ok... I am not an expert in any way shape or form.

On the DT pair from Chard56: Yes the fins are uneven but depending on what you want to do with the spawns, and they can be fixed in time with fry being bred to the right fish to get what you want. Use your best judgement and take advise from everyone, but use bettas in your program that have traits you want in your line. If you want instant gratification, and perfect fish in just a gen. or two, the DT won't be the way to go imo.

I'm not sure what Chard56 might have done to some of you guys, but to me it seems pretty rude to bash another forum member, no matter who it is, in public posts.

I'm sure I will get my head ripped off for saying so, but c'mon guys what makes the forum such a nice place to me is how kind and helpful everyone is to each other. If you really feel you need to bash someone it's probably best done in PM, unless it's a public warning about a member in general. (Like the aquabid seller who sells one eyed, damaged, bettas - "we just dip in the net and get what comes out."... ugh.)

just makes me sad
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:13 PM   #19 
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I wasnt bashing anyone. I just said that those fins are bad. Nothing more Nothing less. and to stay away from vt
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:23 PM   #20 
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Personal I don't know who chard is or every talk to him
I see what he sell to other member on this form n saying it this n that
Bottom line the fin don't fall into the category to what he lable them as
For a small time breeder he really over price his fish
Second on ab if I count correctly he have fish from 6 different spawn on there
That what he saying he can produce
I can be wrong but it look like he is a reseller
Buying from lfs n remartking them
Wait up
Is chard a guy or a woman????
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