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Old 07-28-2012, 03:53 PM   #21 
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All fish are different, their endurance can change slightly and some may hang in there longer. but it is fatal to use regularly. that damage wont go away and it will eventually cause other organs to fail or for the fish to become so stressed other ailments might surface, such as parasites and the like.

It just takes some time for it to show on some fish.


I would highly recommend IAL if you have yet to try them. when my bettas have issues they get some"spa time" and that helps build their slime coat and sooth any burns or fin rot they might have. The later usually at rescue time.

I would also strongly recommend buying a small kit, as in some situations, levels need immediate adjusting to avoid fatalities. Things we can't see are sneaky like that.

I truly hope things go for the better with your fish~
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:07 PM   #22 
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Petco tested the water and as I suspected.. abnormally high levels of Ammonia from using a new filter and clean gravel...not enough beneficial bacteria. I was told by someone because I used half old water that it would be fine and I could do a partial water change in a few days...apparently it wasn't.
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:12 PM   #23 
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Petco tested the water and as I suspected.. abnormally high levels of Ammonia from using a new filter and clean gravel...not enough beneficial bacteria. I was told by someone because I used half old water that it would be fine and I could do a partial water change in a few days...apparently it wasn't.
It wasn't okay because the tank is over stocked, it takes time for beneficial bacteria to build up before the cycling process begins. Being overstocked, the ammonia built up too fast and there was no BB to eat it up.

I suggest you buy a liquid test kit & cycle your tank.
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The tank was not overstocked for doing weekly water changes, and I don't think 6 small females is too much for an 8 gallon..I've had zero problems until I changed the filter and tank.

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I have 2 survivors..one with sever fungus(Bella) around her head and the other(Doris)with small amounts...is this ammonia burn that got infected or is it some other fungus? I quarantined both, the catfish and frog are fine . I restarted the tank cycle on saturday cleaned everything out, added fresh water and some "microbe lift" beneficial bacteria..saturday night I sdded the frog and catfish back in and 24 hours later I added both girls back...this morning I noticed fungus on Bella's head and took her out..I now noticed some on Doris and quarantined her as well...
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I also believe all those live plants were working against me..probably creating more ammonia as I upset them when I uprooted them to change the tanks??
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If ammonia is what hurt them, putting them into a cycling tank is a BAD idea.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:24 PM   #28 
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I also believe all those live plants were working against me..probably creating more ammonia as I upset them when I uprooted them to change the tanks??
Plants don't create ammonia unless they are dying. When alive they absorb ammonia.
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and the "aquatic expert" at petco who tested the water said I could just add the microbe lift wait 24 hours and add the fish back in.
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Plants don't create ammonia unless they are dying. When alive they absorb ammonia.
The plants I have in their are aponogentens..they haven't looke dto swift since I took them out of the old tank and put them back in.
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