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Old 07-30-2012, 11:48 AM   #11 
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-- or it's harmless planaria.

My plakat gets them on him when he's been hunting through the weeds in his tank. They drop off after a while, disappear.. they eat fish poo and junk at the bottom of the tank and usually aren't seen at all unless there's too much food/waste lying around and a population explosion happens, or there's a major change in the water that drives them out of the substrate. If you've recently medicated your tank, that'd do it.

Could be gill parasites, but if it was that he'd have been sick as a dog long prior to being exposed to ich medication if he's this sick and there's enough flukes, and big enough ones, to be seen crawling all over him..

Did you medicate the tetra? If so, did you do so in the tank (I'm assuming the betta is in the same tank)?..

If it was in the tank, was the betta sick like this -before- the medication? Or did you not medicate the tetra and then the betta got sick, and then you added ich cure?

These details could help figure out what's wrong with him. Please don't panic-medicate, as too much/unecessary/wrong medications can actually cause your fish to become sick...
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:49 AM   #12 
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This is a description of how Ich presents itself:

The adult parasite burrows into the skin of its victim, feeding on blood and dead epithelial cells. The irritation caused by the burrowing parasite causes the skin of the fish to swell and produce white cysts seen as a small spots.

The fish feels as if it's been bitten by a mosquito. It's not unusual to see infected fish scratching against rocks and gravel in an effort to get relief.
After several days of feasting, the engorged parasite develops into a trophozoite, burrows out of the fish and sinks bottom of the tank. Secreting a soft jellylike substance, it forms a protective membrane inside of which it divides into hundreds of baby parasites, known as tomites. The hungry tomites soon leave their home in search of a fresh fish to dine upon.
It is during the free-swimming stage, which lasts a mere three days, that the parasite is vulnerable to medication. Once it has burrowed into a new host fish it is safely protected from chemicals in the water.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:57 AM   #13 
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Treatment:

Hope this helps>>
  • Raise water temperature
  • Medicate for 10-14 days
  • Reduce medication when treating scaleless fish
  • Discontinue carbon filtration during treatment
  • Perform water changes between treatments
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:46 PM   #14 
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^ Very good info.

But the part of the ich life cycle visible to the naked eye doesn't look like "worms" at all. (Not to say he doesn't have ich - in fact, I'm betting on it..)

It's just that there's no 'worms' I've found that would be crawling on the fish's skin.. whereas I've seen planaria do just that to my plakat, pretty regularly with no harm done.

I'm attempting to help the fish avoid the stress of extra medications if they aren't needed... so some more info on these 'worms' would be great.
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^ Very good info.

But the part of the ich life cycle visible to the naked eye doesn't look like "worms" at all. (Not to say he doesn't have ich - in fact, I'm betting on it..)

It's just that there's no 'worms' I've found that would be crawling on the fish's skin.. whereas I've seen planaria do just that to my plakat, pretty regularly with no harm done.

I'm attempting to help the fish avoid the stress of extra medications if they aren't needed... so some more info on these 'worms' would be great.

Yea, that's why I had to look it up for myself, It got me confused, I know it's a parasite, but I wasn't sure if for the ick, the treatment would be Aquarium, or Epsom, thinking if it's internal, but started as ick..and wanted to reccomend the right way to treat..so it sounded like they already are burrowing out.. Aus..what is Planaria?
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Just came across this website..

http://watershed3.tripod.com/diseases.htmlt
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:58 PM   #17 
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Planaria is a worm like creature who is present in the tank when ever there is fish poo or fish food. They're harmless, but annoying. The best way to get rid of them are more water changes. They're usually microscopic and are hard to see. They are usually found on the sides of the tank.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:00 PM   #18 
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Detritus worms (commonly confused for planaria) are a substrate dweller that look like thin, short hairs and can be found crawling up the sides of an aquarium or swimming through the water column in graceful S movements. They will have a population explosion if there is excess food or debris (whether fecal matter or decaying plant matter) and will go away with time and regular water changes.

Planaria are a species of flatworm and usually have an arrow shaped head, they often hitch-hike in on plants. Planaria are sometimes confused with tiny freshwater leeches... which they are not.

Both are harmless with the exception of large planaria (these can take out fry).

http://www3.sympatico.ca/drosera1/fish/worms.htm is a fantastic page to look at for worm IDs.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:04 PM   #19 
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Planaria is a worm like creature who is present in the tank when ever there is fish poo or fish food. They're harmless, but annoying. The best way to get rid of them are more water changes. They're usually microscopic and are hard to see. They are usually found on the sides of the tank.
Oh boy, I never saw them, so I didn't know..thanks
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:48 AM   #20 
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Hi, everyone. I am the original poster.

After two days of the Super Ick Cure treatment, my betta has started to recover. He has gotten his color back and is eating, which is a huge step from before.

He still hovers near the top via the Betta Log, but I think everything is going to be okay.

I have 2 more days of treatment and will let everyone know how it goes.

Thanks so much for the help and support!
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