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Old 08-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #31 
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Thank you Indjo. I used to have a roommate from Indonesia. My friends also used to work as a bank consultant in Jakarta.
You're welcome.
It's good to know that you know more about Indo. we seem to be less popular (in the US) compared to other South East Asian countries.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:34 PM   #32 
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They are 20 day old today. Monday is their 3rd week.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:57 PM   #33 
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They seem to be growing well but you still have an ick problem.
What's the temperature in your tank?
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:08 PM   #34 
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Hi Vicky, the temperature is 84-85%. I use 80% of the full dose coppersafe (full dose 5ml = 4gal; I use 4ml for 4 gal). The fishes are ok with 80% dose. I wonder if water conditioner neutralize copper?

I add coppersafe to the new water for water change. Water chage 1/3 tank every 2 days.

It seems that it is better and not getting any worst at the very least.

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Old 08-27-2012, 11:24 AM   #35 
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That last picture shows signs of ick/white spots.
If you have a spare tank, move them and treat the original tank. In this case, smaller is better, specially for you, because you need to do more/massive water changes. Change as much water as possible daily. Have you tried adding salt? I often add salt to the medication if they show little to no recovery.

I'm assuming you're using tap water. If it only contains chlorine, you don't need to use dechlors. Age the new water for at least 24 hours with an airpump (longer = better). That way you know nothing gets neutralized by the water conditioner.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:45 PM   #36 
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Fries are now 25 day old and still have ick

Fries are now 25 day old. I think I still have over 150 fries. I tried random sample count and it came to around 150. Some are very big and I think they are about the getting color. They seems to be healthy but with the white spots on them for 2 weeks now. I treat them with full dose of coppersafe and the water temperature is about 84F but the ick still there.



This weekend I will remove them to the new tank with aged water but without water condition. Then I will give them full dose of coppersafe. I wonder of the water conditioner neutralize copper from coppersafe.

I think the water conditioner does partially neutralize the copper. Water conditioners contain mostly sodium thiosulate some dissociated into water to give Na and SO4. Coppersafe contains mostly copper (Cu) and. Cu will react with SO4 to produce CuSO4.

Last night I used 1 gal of 3-day old tap water without using any conditioner and full dose of coppersafe. The fries seem ok with 3-day old water without water conditioner.

I hope I can save this spawns. I think it is hard to get ick off the fries. I hope that the tank is bad so remove fries to new tank may help with the treatment.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:53 PM   #37 
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Another picture of 25 day old fries

I know the fries look small but they are plaket. I am happy that they grow so fast. I used to jar my first at 8 month old. Here in the U.S. so many of friends have to start jars them around 3 months. I like them to stay together as long as possible. I personally think breeders in the U.S. are way over feed the fries and they grow so quick.

The why dots on the bottom are decap bbs. My fries eat decap bbs ok.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:28 PM   #38 
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Have you tried salt yet Tan?
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Hi Victor, I have not yet tried aquarium salt? How much salt is ok for fries? Thank you
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Ok I just added 7 teaspoon of aquarium salt into my fry tank with 9 gal water and coppersafe. I hope they will get better tomorrow. The full dose was 1 teaspoon per gal.
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