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Old 09-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #1 
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Betta Behavior

Hi there.

I got a Betta a month ago. Since I got him, he has always been hungry, which I always took to be a good sign, since I just make sure not to give him too much, twice a day. The second the food hits the water, he attacks it. A couple days this week, I have come home from work at about 8, turned on the lights in the house, and found him "sleeping" in the top corner, something which I did not notice before. I attempt to feed him, and he doesn't eat.
This morning I changed his water and cleaned his rocks of any rotting food, so his place is 100% clean. I gave him water that had been sitting for two days in clean containers. Tonight I get home and there he is in the corner, so I gently woke him up and turned all my lights on. He swims around a bit, but somewhat lazily, and still did not eat. Then he kept on gobbling up air every 5 seconds for a bit, which had never happened before.
One last thing, when I wake up every morning, he is active and healthy appearing and eats like normal. I'm worried something might be wrong with him though, because the temperature is usually about 79-82/3 degrees at night, and dips down to the mid 70's by morning. Usually it's 76 at say, 10 AM, and 80 at 10 PM.

My question is:
What might be wrong with him in this scenario?

Thanks for taking the time to read, any advice is appreciated. I think I'm going to get a PH and ammonia kit tomorrow. I want to get a small plant for his home soon too.
If this is nothing I'd be happy to delete the thread.

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How big is the tank.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:52 PM   #3 
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You should save your money for a heater instead of a ph/ammonia kit. I haven't plugged in my adjustable heater in any of my betta tanks till just a few days ago.

It's going to be in the 60's tonight. But the room they're being kept in is in the 80's right now.

What you're describing is a betta that's cold and instead of eating, he's trying to conserve is energy to stay warm.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:53 PM   #4 
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What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

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How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

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Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
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How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
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Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:56 PM   #5 
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You should save your money for a heater instead of a ph/ammonia kit. I haven't plugged in my adjustable heater in any of my betta tanks till just a few days ago.

It's going to be in the 60's tonight. But the room they're being kept in is in the 80's right now.

What you're describing is a betta that's cold and instead of eating, he's trying to conserve is energy to stay warm.
Conserve his energy at 80 degrees? I kind of figured that bettas thrive at that temperature.

It is a one gallon tank.

Now he is swimming around kind of frantically because I sat in front of the glass. This fish is confusing.
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Conserve his energy at 80 degrees? I kind of figured that bettas thrive at that temperature.

It is a one gallon tank.

Now he is swimming around kind of frantically because I sat in front of the glass. This fish is confusing.
The tank is too small and temp fluctuation will get him too.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:21 PM   #7 
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The tank is too small and temp fluctuation will get him too.
I can't change the tank size, I intend to get the proper tools to keep his water clean and proper. I plan on getting his a plant as well. I've heard of and seen bettas making bubble nests in 1 quart bowls that are way to small for them. So I certainly don't think I am being cruel, and when I was a kid I had a betta live in this tank for almost 4 years happily.

The way I see it, I'm going to give him the best care I can in his home.


I feed him flakes. He appears to like them.
I have no filter.
I could get an airator.
I have no filter.
I perform weekly water changes. All the water goes. Rocks get cleaned.
Have not tested the water. Seriously considering doing so.
I honestly don't know how old he is. Can't be much. I just got him a month ago.
Appearance is the same. No bug eyes, I dont think. No appearance of rot.




He might just be sleepy and only likes to eat during the day.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:27 PM   #8 
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I can't change the tank size, I intend to get the proper tools to keep his water clean and proper. I plan on getting his a plant as well. I've heard of and seen bettas making bubble nests in 1 quart bowls that are way to small for them. So I certainly don't think I am being cruel, and when I was a kid I had a betta live in this tank for almost 4 years happily.

The way I see it, I'm going to give him the best care I can in his home.


I feed him flakes. He appears to like them.
I have no filter.
I could get an airator.
I have no filter.
I perform weekly water changes. All the water goes. Rocks get cleaned.
Have not tested the water. Seriously considering doing so.
I honestly don't know how old he is. Can't be much. I just got him a month ago.
Appearance is the same. No bug eyes, I dont think. No appearance of rot.




He might just be sleepy and only likes to eat during the day.

In that size tank, a weekly water change IS being cruel. When you do get a test kit, unless you choose a heater instead, test your water every day. In a 1 gal tank, you will see ammonia begin to build up after about a day. Two days, and your levels will be high enough to begin to stress your fish out. After a week, ammonia will be at toxic levels. Bettas are too hardy for their own good, because they can SURVIVE for years in terrible conditions, but that doesn't mean it's HEALTHY for them. Don't you want to do the best for your pet?

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I can't change the tank size, I intend to get the proper tools to keep his water clean and proper. I plan on getting his a plant as well. I've heard of and seen bettas making bubble nests in 1 quart bowls that are way to small for them. So I certainly don't think I am being cruel, and when I was a kid I had a betta live in this tank for almost 4 years happily.

The way I see it, I'm going to give him the best care I can in his home.


I feed him flakes. He appears to like them.
I have no filter.
I could get an airator.
I have no filter.
I perform weekly water changes. All the water goes. Rocks get cleaned.
Have not tested the water. Seriously considering doing so.
I honestly don't know how old he is. Can't be much. I just got him a month ago.
Appearance is the same. No bug eyes, I dont think. No appearance of rot.




He might just be sleepy and only likes to eat during the day.
A well kept Betta can live 7-8 years and 10 is not unheard of and yes you are being cruel Bettas need pellets. Bubble nesting only means they are alive your problem with the fish is called depression I live with it and that sounds right.

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Old 09-02-2012, 10:51 PM   #10 
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I'll get some pellets and a test kit tomorrow. Any brand pellets you recommend?
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