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Old 09-08-2012, 10:46 PM   #21 
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Maybe I will give the oak leaves a shot, if anything, I'll just get IAL in the future if they don't work! Any oak leaf will work, right? I mean, I know some have different tannin releases and effects, but a certain strain (barring pesticides) isn't going to kill my bettas, right? How often to I change the leaves? I don't want to let them rot and spike up ammonia levels...

I really need to learn a lot more about ammonia and ph levels and what not before I attempt breeding...
If anyone has some recommended reading or some basic explainations/tips I would appreciate it!
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:10 PM   #22 
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Maybe I will give the oak leaves a shot, if anything, I'll just get IAL in the future if they don't work! Any oak leaf will work, right? I mean, I know some have different tannin releases and effects, but a certain strain (barring pesticides) isn't going to kill my bettas, right? How often to I change the leaves? I don't want to let them rot and spike up ammonia levels...

I really need to learn a lot more about ammonia and ph levels and what not before I attempt breeding...
If anyone has some recommended reading or some basic explainations/tips I would appreciate it!
Sun dry them first so that it will tan properly/ faster.
Sorry bout my comment never had experience using oak leaves though.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:54 AM   #23 
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Depends in the day, how I feel and experience with the individual pair... HMPK's typically get larger breeding tanks, dragons get glass ones so I can monitor aggression better, heavily finned pairs get smaller tanks. Proven pairs get all of the above. Lol, just set up some in a tub and already spawning after realesed 30 minutes ago. My other pair was in a 5 gal and spawned within 30 seconds of being realesed. My Proven fish spawn very fast
Are dragons more aggressive because of the recent hybridization out to wild fish?
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:39 AM   #24 
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i breed my bettas in a 10gal and a 5.5gal. i guess it just depends on the person. my frys right now are approximately 50 count
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:41 AM   #25 
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Are dragons more aggressive because of the recent hybridization out to wild fish?
not sure but i find dragons to be ***** and regular darker Betta's seems to be more aggressive. thats just wat i see
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:05 AM   #26 
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I use the 5gal buckets and other containers for my outside spawns in the warmer months and they work well for me. I also cram them half full with naturally dried and fallen from the tree Oak leaves-along with floating plants like water lettuce and trimmings from my stem plants to float.

I like the taller 5gal buckets-about 18 inches tall with about 16 inches of water-they tend to stay cooler in the summer-sometimes the water temps can get over 100F at the surface and the lower section with all the Oak leaves will be at least 10 degrees cooler. Along with the tannin stained water and live plants-the Betta pair or trio will have multi spawns all summer-I remove the fry on a regular basis and move them to grow outs-

I like to use 5-10gal glass tanks in the house to spawn-I use a natural method and that has worked well for me.

Lots of different ways to successfully spawn this species and rear fry...its finding what works for you.....
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:51 PM   #27 
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Spawning bettas seems like such a rewarding endevor, and I would love to try it. Do certain tail types breed easier than others, or is it all in the personalities of the fish? Where would you recommend I start? I have two boys at the moment that I bought from Petsmart, a halfmoon and a crowntail, and 2 10 gallon tanks.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:07 PM   #28 
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I was watching some youtube videos and came across a series by a guy who claims to be the best breeder in the world, and honestly he seems legit. He was saying to absolutely not breed in a glass tank for many reasons, such as the bettas getting distracted, hiding in the corners of the tank, and the plastic insulating heat better than glass.

What do you guys think about this?
The only thing I find "valuable" about this odd guy is that plastic containers will make water temp more stable compared to glass. Removing male immediately after spawning will reduce the number of hatches, if not destroy the batch. You can't "compare" notes with this guy. He becomes " amazing" if you question his claims.

Deep waters is better for unstable or severe weathers. I prefer shallow tubs, though I've bred in 60cm deep. IMO it all depends on the breeding pair.

All bettas breed the same - I mean there aren't any that breeds easier nor harder. You need to find what best works for you. Learn as many methods as possible and try what you most feel comfortable with - you can even combine methods.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:00 PM   #29 
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his methods aren't really that bad... its his attitude that really has earned him a bad reputation on this site...
but dont worry! everyone has their own methods :) here's mine: 10 gallon tank filled halfway, sponge filter, heater set to 82, lots of floating plants and IAL
true everyone has thier own way of breeding. My way is 10 gal tank filled half way add heater, thermometer, Styrofoam cup cut length wise and no plants. i dont like to use plants cause caring for the fry's is hard with plants cause plants can get in the way and water quality is my number 1 concern
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