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Old 09-21-2012, 11:06 AM   #1 
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Pineapple Butterfly OHM x Pineapple HM Spawn

Piineapple babies! At least that's the hope This will be my first spawn if all goes well.

Dad is a show quality OHM Pineapple Butterfly imported from Thailand. I'm showing his eBay pic because his fins sadly will probably never look this good again after he bit them up during shipping:




Mom is a similarly sized Pineapple HM with a slight copper sheen to her iridescence (dad's is more blue). She also has very thin black edging on her fins. I don't have pics uploaded of her yet, will get those as soon as I figure out where I left my camera.

Anyway, the breeding tank is all set up. It's a 10 gallon with about 6" of water in it. It has a bubble filter in place for when the fry are free swimming, lots of frogbit on the surface with good roots hanging down, an IAL (I'm adding more today), a snail and a Krabby Patty decoration for cover. I didn't have any styrofoam cupos so I took a piece of flat styrofoam about 1" thick and carved out a hollow space in the middle but left the sides touching the water. It also has an insulated metal sheet over it which I'm hoping will keep in the humidity underneath it. The whole tank is very humid right now too, I didn't cut out any pieces on the versatop cover so the water cannot evaporate easily.

I also have an LED light over the whole tank so daddy can see at night. I thought it was just a blue LED but realized this morning it has a daylight/nightlight feature so the daylight is mostly white LED with a few blues.

The spawning tank is set up in my closet XD It was the only good solution, my fish room is my bedroom and since the light will need to stay on for 3 days after the spawning it needs to stay in there so it doesn't drive me nuts at night.

The growout tank is a beautifully planted 20gal long tank. It has fluorite substrate with a sand cap, two African mopani driftwood logs covered in rare mosses, and lots of frogtbit in there too. Plus some java fern, anubias, and crypts.


ANYWAY, I put mommy in a 2 gallon tank which I placed inside the breeding tank last night, and somehow she escaped into the main tank XD I decided that since she was the one who jumped and the not other way around, I'd let her stay in there and see what happened. I was conditioning them in side by side tanks for a week before this so I figured they could be ready.

Mom was displaying vertical stripes and bowing her head down at dad, swimming up to him to flirt and then swimming away, At first dad seemed to have NO CLUE what was going on lol. Then he got the picture and started chasing her back and flaring at her. He also decided he liked the styrofoam area. They did this for about 4 hours and never once stayed close long enough to attempt an embrace. it was almost midnight at this point and I decided that since there were no bubbles I'd take out the mom for the night, since I wouldn't be available to remove her from the tank in the middle of the night if the spawning occurred. I'm going to try them again after my job interview today. I am a tad worried that the water is to viscous still to support a bubble nest. I added extra API water conditioner (I usually use Prime) because I've noticed the slime coat stuff really helps with keeping bubbles on the surface. I will also keep the tank hood open to let dust fall in.

I have been feeding mom and dad several small meals per day of their regular pellets, defrosted bloodworms and brine shrimp. I wish I had access to mosquito larvae, but it's reached the point of getting too cold outside at night to support them.

Hoping this afternoon's breeding goes more successfully. They're both first-timers and so am I, so we're all kind of just trying to muddle through this XD At least I have everything set up well and did my homework!

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:26 AM   #2 
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I will be stalking your thread!!! I wish you all the luck and hope you have many babies!!!! Can't wait for updates and pics!
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:28 PM   #3 
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I am going to be stalking this thread too because that is one beautiful fish. Good luck :)
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:41 PM   #4 
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If you get any yellow females, I'm interested.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:07 PM   #5 
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Glad to hear you found a good female.

Two things...

- Your growout tank, although I'm ure it's beautiful, it's not practical for what you will be using it. You will be making 100% daily water changes for the next 3-4 months and the substrate and decorations are just going to get on your way. The tank needs a good bottom scrubbing every couple of days to get rid of the bacteria there or your fry might suffer from missing ventrals.
A bare bottom tank is ideal for growouts.

- If you leave your hood open your male will never have a good bubble nest because the air pressure will pop his bubbles. The tank should be airtight.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:42 PM   #6 
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Wow. He's gorgeous! The finnage is beautiful, & you gotta love those yellow lips! :)
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:42 PM   #7 
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Glad to hear you found a good female.

Two things...

- Your growout tank, although I'm ure it's beautiful, it's not practical for what you will be using it. You will be making 100% daily water changes for the next 3-4 months and the substrate and decorations are just going to get on your way. The tank needs a good bottom scrubbing every couple of days to get rid of the bacteria there or your fry might suffer from missing ventrals.
A bare bottom tank is ideal for growouts.

- If you leave your hood open your male will never have a good bubble nest because the air pressure will pop his bubbles. The tank should be airtight.
I only left the hood open over night, should I put saran wrap under the hood also? It's not airtight. And I have some Malaysian trumpet snails and ramshorn snails in the 20G. I told OFL about my plans and she said they'd do a good job with cleanup of any uneaten food. The Malaysian Trumpet snails spend most of their time eating gunk out of the substrate, wouldn't that take care of the bacteria along with using my turkey baster?

Both fish are in the breeding tank again, they have tried to embrace but they can't quite figure it out yet.
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:02 PM   #8 
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Ooooh.... The male is beautiful! I bet the female is too! I cant wait to see the babies if the spawn is successful! May the Odds be ever be in your favor!=)
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:22 PM   #9 
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Your growout tank, although I'm ure it's beautiful, it's not practical for what you will be using it. You will be making 100% daily water changes for the next 3-4 months and the substrate and decorations are just going to get on your way. The tank needs a good bottom scrubbing every couple of days to get rid of the bacteria there or your fry might suffer from missing ventrals.
A bare bottom tank is ideal for growouts.
OFL spawns and raises all her bettas in planted tanks, she almost never has missing ventrals. I think there is much more food available in an aged planted tank that the fry are swimming trying to get the natural food already in the tank. I would also think the fry would be more at home and would swim around more than in a bare tank with almost nothing for them to do.

That's just my two cents. I have never bred before though.
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the dad is beautiful! i think he might be a MG though, not a pineapple. pineapples usually have solid yellow fins with black/navy blue rimming around the edges.
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