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Old 10-13-2012, 12:16 PM   #1 
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Ammonia Source Trouble

I need some help for my ammonia source in my fishless cycle. I can't seem to find pure ammonia. Ace Hardware is like 50 minutes from where I am now and I don't think my parents would go all the way there just for ammonia. I'm not sure on using fish food as some type of bacteria will build up and it might even be that cotton mouth sickness. :/ Any ideas of ammonia sources besides fish food? Shrimp is a no no. Smell and moulding, eww... Help, please?
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:52 PM   #2 
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Is this tank for a single Betta or a community tank....

If its a filtered tank for a single Betta-You can safely cycle with a healthy Betta-provided that you make the needed water changes-Not much different than keeping the Betta in a different tank-No matter what-you have to make water changes-all you are doing with cycling is colonizing bacteria.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:55 PM   #3 
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It's a 20L gallon sorority with a snail, Cories, and shrimp.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:13 PM   #4 
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Do you plan on any live plants...

What kind of testing products do you have and have you made a base-line test on your source water with and without the additives you normally use.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:05 PM   #5 
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Yes, some anarchis or whatever, java moss, Anubis, and maybe some swords. Of course, it will be heavily decorated. I use the API master test kit. The parameters are all 0ppm, conditioned and not conditioned.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:35 PM   #6 
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It's a 20L gallon sorority with a snail, Cories, and shrimp.

20 liters or 20 gallons? You said both.
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Old 10-14-2012, 05:55 AM   #7 
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Lebron, I thought you already had a cycled tank that you can get some bacteria from to seed your new tank. With all that stock, you have all the ammonia you need.

20L probably means a 20 gallon long tank as opposed to a 20 gallon tall.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:19 AM   #8 
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You can use the plants as the ammonia source...anything organic will work, however, it can be harder since plants can cause natural changes that are hard to read. If you have an established tank-use its filter media and a handful of its gravel to seed the tank-Set it up-seed it, plant it and add one school of fish every 2 weeks-Test water daily and make water onlys based on ammonia, nitrite 0.25ppm or greater and 1-50% with vacuum weekly.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:59 AM   #9 
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Yes, it's a 20 gallon long. I guess I could get some gravel, I could probably get half as well. I'll do that plan, thanks guys!

Doesn't Home Depot have ammonium chloride? In other words, ammonia?
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:07 AM   #10 
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I just read online the ammonium chloride will work for cycling at a faster rate although I'm not sure how much you should put for 20 gallons. If you don't mind buying online there is a solution of ammonium chloride at this link and it tells how much per gallon.. Its only 3 bucks

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=24530

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