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Old 10-15-2012, 01:01 AM   #21 
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Sounds nice, the Petco does t hat by me, might have to get some anubias from those since it is so cheap.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:06 AM   #22 
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you need to join a club! I just got free anubius (anubii?) today in return for some moss and susswassertang
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:36 AM   #23 
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I agree with Aokashi, those plastic pots filled with gravel would actually work well, or just simple small clay pots. Then you would easily be able to move the plants while cleaning, still have a bare bottom, and the plants can root.

THere is no need for liquid CO2, not sure why you keep insisting lol. Co2 will naturally form by the waste. The only thing I would recommend is a fert for plants to grow.

I would skip hornwort, it is super messy and not worth the extra cleaning, anacharis, java fern, anubias, wisteria, and a marmio are all good plants and can be found at stores like Petco or Petsmart.
Because the frog will not make enough and macro and micro nutrients need to be supplemented like iron.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:01 AM   #24 
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what club? i want to start a npt... 5 gallon ... though would prefer 2-3 gallon if i can find one (most i see have 'filter built in'
bit scared of dirt/sand(micro gravel)

i have a good source for plants (we have a fish store in area)

was thinking
1 beta
some ghost shrimp (how many??)
snail

plants ??

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no filter?
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:56 AM   #25 
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what club? i want to start a npt... 5 gallon ... though would prefer 2-3 gallon if i can find one (most i see have 'filter built in'
bit scared of dirt/sand(micro gravel)

i have a good source for plants (we have a fish store in area)

was thinking
1 beta
some ghost shrimp (how many??)
snail

plants ??

heater
light

no filter?
Lol, you'll get more responses if you started a thread.

here's my wonderful NPT drawing for you =D
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...F4B2319DAC.jpg

you will do best with a filter in the earlier stages after setting up the npt.
You should base the plants on your lighting (so get the light first and see what you can afford). some plants require highlight and CO2.

I recommend a HOB filter.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:44 PM   #26 
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Agreed but pet stors sell cheap ferts.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:09 PM   #27 
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I agree with Aokashi, those plastic pots filled with gravel would actually work well, or just simple small clay pots. Then you would easily be able to move the plants while cleaning, still have a bare bottom, and the plants can root.
THere is no need for liquid CO2, not sure why you keep insisting lol. Co2 will naturally form by the waste. The only thing I would recommend is a fert for plants to grow.
I would skip hornwort, it is super messy and not worth the extra cleaning, anacharis, java fern, anubias, wisteria, and a marmio are all good plants and can be found at stores like Petco or Petsmart.
Thanks for all the advice! I read somewhere that clay pots affect the ph and I really don't need any more ph problems. Is this true? Also, is the fert all I need for the plants? You said I don't need liquid CO2 or anything.
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You don't need CO2 but liquad ferts are very important tap water and fish waste lacks many nutrients so liquad ferts are cheap and effecrive.
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Old 10-16-2012, 04:36 PM   #29 
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Okay thanks, I'll be sure to get one
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