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Old 11-10-2012, 05:05 PM   #11 
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Ah! my bad, I'm pretty sure that the original poster had some issues with a 10 gal kit that after filling was bowing & that the heater in that kit was a dud. Sorry to be so out of context ( old person syndrome )
Actually it wasn't a kit :( It was just a dud heater! and tank! Deep blue is the brand, and even one of the employees at the store said steer clear of that brand, AFTER the fact. So now I am using a different tank. Its old so I dont know the make. And I got an aqueon heater. Seems to be working sofa!

And for those who asked, the tank is 10 gal. I have one live plant in there, and as far as cycling goes.. I really don't know. As I said above, I put in a bottle of that stuff that is supposed to make the tank ready immediately. A local fish specialist recommended it. So I guess I will be putting in a fish fairly soon. It sounds like mostly everyone on here may be against this process :(
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:08 PM   #12 
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Actually it wasn't a kit :( It was just a dud heater! and tank! Deep blue is the brand, and even one of the employees at the store said steer clear of that brand, AFTER the fact. So now I am using a different tank. Its old so I dont know the make. And I got an aqueon heater. Seems to be working sofa!

And for those who asked, the tank is 10 gal. I have one live plant in there, and as far as cycling goes.. I really don't know. As I said above, I put in a bottle of that stuff that is supposed to make the tank ready immediately. A local fish specialist recommended it. So I guess I will be putting in a fish fairly soon. It sounds like mostly everyone on here may be against this process :(
NEVER trust pet-store employees, From my exprience they almost never know what they are doing.

The average tank with a filter AND live plants should take about 4-8 weeks to cycle, FISHLESS CYCLE>unless you are doing a fish- in cycle.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:10 PM   #13 
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your very welcome! This forum is very nice, and you will learn a lot!
i use carbon in my filters, but it really doesnt make that much of a difference.
the actuall catridge dosent need to be changed, as it houses all your beneficial bacteria, only if it is falling apart should you change it.
I used bacteria to start up my tank as well, and no, you will not get yelled at lol.


the salt will have directions, but when your fish is sick, make sure it is dissolved before you add it first, and dont use it for more than a week at a time, as it can cause internal damage.
and no, dont alter the chemistry :) You should be fine. My aquariums have very hard water, with a ph off the charts and they are fine. My water is also very akaline.
Actually my water must be very similar to yours. Its coming up hard on the tests, and the PH being slightly high. Good to know though! I will not use any altering chemicals. I was under the impression that pH could be life altering, but it eases me to know this isn't true. I actually have my eye on a pure white male betta. Once this temp is regulated, I think I will be getting him :)
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:11 PM   #14 
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I have personally witnessed a tank that was set-up 1 bottle of tetra safe start added and while the little voices in my head thought that it was snake oil, that tank cycled in one week, without any loss of life ( started with a light fish load )... but it worked as advertised.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:18 PM   #15 
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I have personally witnessed a tank that was set-up 1 bottle of tetra safe start added and while the little voices in my head thought that it was snake oil, that tank cycled in one week, without any loss of life ( started with a light fish load )... but it worked as advertised.
I hope mine goes that smoothly. I used a product like that, it wasn't Safe Start though. It was called Nutrafin cycle. Recommended by a local fish specialist. I feel better going by their recommendations, as fish is all they do. What an awesome place to visit that was!

Once I add my betta, even with this cycle being added.. What should I know, or look out for and how often should I test? When I went to the store, I didn't know what test supplies to buy. So I ended up with 6 in 1 test strips by Tetra. And of course they suggest all these other products to help with levels. Very misleading! One may have purchased a whole Tetra maintenance supply when not necessary. Without this forum, I dont know what id do!
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Actually my water must be very similar to yours. Its coming up hard on the tests, and the PH being slightly high. Good to know though! I will not use any altering chemicals. I was under the impression that pH could be life altering, but it eases me to know this isn't true. I actually have my eye on a pure white male betta. Once this temp is regulated, I think I will be getting him :)
yay! If you go into my albums, you will see(click on my username) i have one Veitail (yellow) named Honeycomb, and recently have gotten a Pure white-cellophane Halfmoon Double tail whos name is Casper :) he has since marbled and changed color :)
he is also my avatar picture.

also, some abbreviations many folks on here use, referring to the different tail types of bettas:

VT-Veitail
CT-Crowntail
HM-Halfmoon
PK-Plakat
-DT-delta
DbT-Doubletail
-HMPK-Halfmoon plakat
-HMDbT-Halfmoon doubletail
-HMDT-halfmoon delta

Not as Common:::::
-RT-Rosetail
FT-Feather tail :)
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:21 PM   #17 
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I hope mine goes that smoothly. I used a product like that, it wasn't Safe Start though. It was called Nutrafin cycle. Recommended by a local fish specialist. I feel better going by their recommendations, as fish is all they do. What an awesome place to visit that was!

Once I add my betta, even with this cycle being added.. What should I know, or look out for and how often should I test? When I went to the store, I didn't know what test supplies to buy. So I ended up with 6 in 1 test strips by Tetra. And of course they suggest all these other products to help with levels. Very misleading! One may have purchased a whole Tetra maintenance supply when not necessary. Without this forum, I dont know what id do!
this forum is a gold mine of experience!
the test strips can be inaccurate....
look out for ammonia spikes and cloudy water. Cloudy water generally means a bacterial bloom, which means the tank is cycline. If you are going to cycle the tank WITH the betta in it, water changes should be done ATLEAST 2 times a week to keep the ammonia down.

fishkeeping is harder than it looks lol!

I have spent hundreds on supplies when i was a beginner, even with research! People dont realise how misleading and hard fishkeeping actually is. They think they can just dump a fish in a bowl and it will live. Unfortunately, thats DEFINETELY not how it works lol
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yay! If you go into my albums, you will see(click on my username) i have one Veitail (yellow) named Honeycomb, and recently have gotten a Pure white-cellophane Halfmoon Double tail whos name is Casper :) he has since marbled and changed color :)
he is also my avatar picture.

also, some abbreviations many folks on here use, referring to the different tail types of bettas:

VT-Veitail
CT-Crowntail
HM-Halfmoon
PK-Plakat
-DT-delta
DbT-Doubletail
-HMPK-Halfmoon plakat
-HMDbT-Halfmoon doubletail
-HMDT-halfmoon delta

Not as Common:::::
-RT-Rosetail
FT-Feather tail :)
Thank you! I will try to remember that :) This white one is a half moon. I seem to be drawn to them!

I will check out your pix now!!
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:23 PM   #19 
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Thank you! I will try to remember that :) This white one is a half moon. I seem to be drawn to them!

I will check out your pix now!!
OMG i LOVE halfmoons! I cant wait to see it!!! Can you upload a picture?
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:24 PM   #20 
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this forum is a gold mine of experience!
the test strips can be inaccurate....
look out for ammonia spikes and cloudy water. Cloudy water generally means a bacterial bloom, which means the tank is cycline. If you are going to cycle the tank WITH the betta in it, water changes should be done ATLEAST 2 times a week to keep the ammonia down.

fishkeeping is harder than it looks lol!

I have spent hundreds on supplies when i was a beginner, even with research! People dont realise how misleading and hard fishkeeping actually is. They think they can just dump a fish in a bowl and it will live. Unfortunately, thats DEFINETELY not how it works lol
Ok.. will do, thank you! I guess I should invest in a better testing kit too. (most are recommending the API one) I have put a lot of money into this!! But its worth it to get the right materials. Live and learn!
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