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Old 11-29-2012, 09:00 AM   #1 
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I'm really worried about my fishy please help!

Hi all. I had gotten JB the fish this past summer and he's a very special fish in so many ways and means a lot to me. I would really appreciate it if you could do your very best to help me out with my situation. I do a lot of research on these forums when I think he might be sick, but I had never posted before, but I think I really need some specific advice now for JB's particular condition.

He's in a 1.5 gal filtered tank with lots of colorful plants and tank decor, a spongebob toy is also in there, as well as a betta hammock. I change his filter once every month, and I do a full water change every two weeks. I also do a partial water change everyday after I take out any uneaten food. I feed him once each morning, normally with a small pinch of flakes and one or two blood worms or pellets. I used to have live plants but when they began to die I threw them out. He's a beautiful crowntail but I started noticing in the summer that his fin tips were bending. I tried betta fix, and I also tried polyguard later on. He later seemed to develop this white little growth at the base of his tail, it sticks up from the surface of the tail. Also a long piece of one of his fins fell off and it seemed a bit red or bloody from where it had fallen off. At this point I took him to a vet specialist for fish. The vet office ran a sample of my water and they told me all the water conditions were great. The vet did some scrapings on him and used histology to determine if there was a parasite of some kind and found that he had a parasite he had never seen before called Ambiphrya. For treatment, he gave me formalin and told me to add 0.5 ml into 1 L of water, and to keep him in this water for one hour and then to put him back in non-formalin water. He said to repeat this for three days. I followed his treatment. I also cleaned his tank and all its items really well, including the live plant with bleach and made sure all the bleach had been rinsed away and cleaned off. He lost some stress coat I think from the formalin, but overall he seemed to recover well from the treatment and the part of his fin that had fallen off had grown in a little bit. Lately, I had been noticing there was some (I'm not really certain how to describe it) dark blue thin pieces of shedding on the bottom of the tank but I'm honestly not sure if they're from him or from something in the tank. He's a very active fishy and has continued to be very active, which I find to be a good sign. He normally attacks the spongebob toy, but yesterday he continued attacking and flaring very aggressively for quite some time so I was afraid of the way it was stressing him out so I took out the toy. He still has that little white growth at the base of his tail but it seems to have broken in half a bit. There's some black coloration where the scraping had been done on one side of his tail and a little around the white growth on the other side of his tail. I'm concerned about his health the condition of his fins and tail, and at this point I want to ensure that I've stopped the progression of this disease or the parasite or whatever he might have. So, I'm very confused if I should give him one treatment of formalin (but I worry it may be too harsh), if I should try aq salt, or if I shouldn't do anything right now. I also would like to give him something to promote the regrowth of his fins and appendages. The vet said that because fins are fibrous projections like our fingers that they won't grow back. But please help me in anyway you can with some advice. Thank you so much.

I've included pictures of both sides of him, one side has the black mark and the other side has the white growth. One is a picture of him from before. And one is a picture of those sheddings I picked up from the bottom of the tank when I was cleaning.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:56 AM   #2 
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The black part was where the scraping had been done? That settles my answer. Since the SLIME COAT which is on all fish has been scraped in an odd spot the tissue may have gotten infected or possibly died... Personally a clipping of the tail end should have sufficed for any tests - or someone on here could've sufficed as well. (I'm surprised you found a vet for a betta though!)


Looks like he has been tailbiting which is common when a fish is stressed. They DO GROW BACK. It's bull to say it can't. Sometimes it won't, other times it won't be as lovely as it was before. But fins grow back. (Coming from me, who has rescued and healed over 10 different fin loss cases including tailbiting, fin rot, amputation to stop an infection and attacked from other fish.)

Do you have a live plant? Or perhaps something that is painted and peeling? Has his behaviour changed at all? I avoid medicating unless I see something wrong. Sometimes fish get something unexplained and harmless, but they are peachy! I "listen" to my fish. They show me they aren't feeling good...

What you can do, is PRE-dissolve aquarium salt (low dose, 1-2 teaspoon per gallon) and add to the tank. Clean the tank every day (empty out dont full on rinse everything or use bleach or vinegar) and re-add the salt that was taken out (ex. 50% water out = half salt back in). This encourages slime coat, and boosts immunity.

As for fin tips bending: he is a crowntail. It's pretty common for the ends to melt (some people use IALs to soften the water) or bend :)

Hope I helped!
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:44 AM   #3 
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what is an IAL? I do use water conditioner that might help with the slime coat. I agree scraping is too much- he also did the fin snips- but I'm glad I did take him to the vet, because amphibrya is a very specific parasite that because it's ciliated doesn't go away with the typical measures we might take to promote betta health. I appreciate the info and I'll try some salt!
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:55 AM   #4 
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Also, I pay a lot of attention to him and spend a lot of time watching him and I've never seen him tail bite- so I doubt that's what's been going on with his tail
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:01 AM   #5 
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Well, use the aquarium salt and keep up with water changes to see if that helps. He could be tail biting at night... I've had a few tail biters myself sneaky buggers ;)

IAL is Indian Almond Leaves. Very handy, and act as a conditioner for water. Bettas love it!
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:04 AM   #6 
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do you know where I could get some Indian almond leaves? would I soak them in some of his water and then add that water to his tank? I bet they'd be really helpful! thank you so much :)
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:26 AM   #7 
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Usually I rinse one off lightly and put the whole leaf in there :) check fish stores, or someone on here might be in your area and may have some they could spare. I get mine online from EBAY
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:37 PM   #8 
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oh one more question Sena, when I add the salt do I turn his filter off, take the filter out, or just keep it running? thanks!
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I've never had a problem but I think some people recommend at least removing the cartridge for salts and meds (carbon in the cartridge if you have a three way)
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:40 AM   #10 
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I've used the salt twice now. but now there seems to be a little hole forming in that area at the base of his tail. :(
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