fish bloated early fin rot

[Joytattoo]

I have a betta showing early fin rot signs i have done a 100% water change and started treating him but now he's starting to look really bloated any suggestions. hes latley been alittle lazy and he's quite special to us

[callistra]

A photo would be helpful. As would this:
http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=49233

[Joytattoo]

Housing
What size is your tank? 2 gallons
What temperature is your tank? 72f
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? no
Is your tank heated? yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? neon tetras

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? pellets and sometimes blood worms
How often do you feed your betta fish? once a day

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? every 2 weeks
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 80
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? dechloinater and stress coat

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? yes bloated
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? not overly alittle slow
When did you start noticing the symptoms? today fin rot signs 3 days
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? for fin rot yes for bloating no
Does your fish have any history of being ill? no
How old is your fish (approximately)? 1

[callistra]

The fin rot is because the water needs to be changed more often. You need to be doing 100% once a week and another couple smaller changes in between with that small of an uncycled bowl. Also, even though it's really good you have some kind of heater, 72 is way too cold. 76 is minimum, but bettas do better a little warmer around the 78/79 mark. The bloating could be constipation. Low temps slow down their digestive system and tend to lead to this. Also if the blood worms are freeze dried and you don't soak them before feeding, this can also cause bloating. It's also a good idea to fast your betta and not feed him/her one day a week.

Is there any pine coning or is it just a little swollen looking? Photo again would be helpful here.. For now I would up your water changes, find a way to raise tamps (Slowly, don't want to shock) and fast a few days while monitoring the poop. You might want to stock up on some pure 100% epsom salt with no dyes, perfumes or any additives (check ingredients label and CVS Pharmacy is what I've found in the past) in case there is any pine coning or he is not improving in a few days. Normally I would add aquarium salt to deal with the fin rot but I would not use AQ while there is bloating involved.. the epsom may also be helpful for the fin rot but I wouldn't jump into it just yet. Up to you. You could try as little as 1/4 tsp per gallon or as much as 1 tsp per gallon, predissolved in a little tank water before adding back.

[Joytattoo]

yes slight pine coning I font have a good enough camra for that a friend suggested consipation too so he suggested zuccinii

[callistra]

Pine coning is bad bad news. Get epsoms ASAP and try to find metronidazole and garlic guard (to mix medicated feed) or kanaplex by seachem (to put in the water). The pine coning is a sign of internal infection or organ failure (usually due to infection) and it's usually very fast moving once it hits that point.

[Joytattoo]

:( ohhhh no idk if kelowna sells any of that

[callistra]

The epsom salts can be bought at the grocery store or pharmacy. I use CVS brand because they are pure without any additives, but I'm sure there are other brands. You just have to check the label.

Your best bet for Seachem Products are local stores, as Walmart, Petsmart and Petco don't carry them. If you can't find any seachem products you can try for Maracyn Plus (not Maracyn or Maracyn II) and dose ml using something other than the cap. It's not accurate.. checked myself.

[Joytattoo]

thanks ill do my best finding it I have the salt and its in there is this contagious

[Joytattoo]

unfortuantly the only store that will be open is walmart :/ praying he can make it till tomorrow night after work