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Old 12-20-2012, 04:38 PM   #1 
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Almond Leaf Extract

I've been doing some research for my next spawning, and I've decided to try using indian almond leaf.

I dont want to just stick the leaf in the water, so I wanted to make an extract.

Anyone have a recommendation? As in say, how much water per leaf, or five leaves?
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:54 PM   #2 
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Using the leaf itself has some added benefits for fry-The leaf help provide cover, help create microorganisms for fry to eat, have antibacterial/fungal properties to name a few.

If you want to make an extract-I would use 1-3 large leaf per gallon of water-crushed and allow them to steep naturally. The longer they steep-the more tannins release-the darker the water. I like to use a clean 1gal milk jug to steep my tannins.

You don't want to use water over 110F-since high temps kill the antibacterial/fungal properties. High heat will help the tannins to release faster-but personally, I like the added benefit of the antibacterial/fungal properties.

You can't use too many or overdose with IAL since its a natural product.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:13 AM   #3 
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:22 AM   #4 
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OFL has the best info :)
I like using the leaves themselves - I'll cut up some large ones and place them directly into all my tanks/containers, and I put a whole one (cut in half, along with a small piece of bubble wrap) into the breeding tank. Over time the large leaf will create a nice tannin in the tank, and if I want, can use the gallon water jug I have set up for making the tannin to add more tannin into a tank if I want more for those boys and girls who got chomped on.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:25 AM   #5 
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oldfishlady , can i add 50 leaves in 1 gallon and let it steep and keep it in the fridge? and how long doe sit last
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I am not sure on the IAL-but with Oak leaf it will start to smell after about a week or so-I have done mutli test and experiments with that water and it didn't cause any problems with Bettas-even week old fry. You can keep it in the fridge-but for how long I really don't know-I keep a 1gal jug mixed up sitting on my fish table, I do try to mix up fresh if it been sitting for a month or so-I don't have very many sick fish-unless someone bring me one for treatment-I use the leaves directly in the tank for spawning.

I would think it would last for a long time in the fridge and by using 50 leaves you would have a pretty good concentration to dilute and use for many different things. Personally I would mix up what I needed at the time and save my space in my fridge.
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Are the properties of Oak leaves very similar to the almond? Have you noticed a marked difference? And is it a specific type of Oak?
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The only difference I have seen with the different specie of Oak leave-is the color of the tannins. Almond leaf and Oak leaf are 99% the same regarding properties.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:06 AM   #9 
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if the water smells bad , it doesnt harm the fish?
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:27 AM   #10 
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what abaout banana leaves, just got some today
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