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Old 01-03-2013, 12:08 AM   #1 
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Female beta with half eaten head?

one of my female betta's started having this white growth on her head.
she started to hide a lot after that, but i only thought it was because my male Betta was keeping her hidden (i have a territorial fella who chases the females when they come out. i'm a bad owner i know) I didn't see the growth as anything serious at the time (though i really didn't know what it is)

so while i was cleaning the tank yesterday, having to remove all the ornaments thus forcing my fish out for awhile. i finally saw this female betta of mine after so long.
and the growth on her head practically ate away half her face ...




i had something similar the last time with another female of mine, but that was just a wound that never healed.

anyone know if this is a bacterial infection? I'd like to know what on earths happening to my fish so i can actually do something about it the next time anything like this happens again :/

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Old 01-03-2013, 12:26 AM   #2 
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Always always get at least one daily look at your fish.. especially when you know they're sick. Also you cannot keep male and female bettas together in the same tank unless you are using a divider.. Please fill this out: http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=49233

In the meantime she needs to be removed from this tank and quarantined in something smaller that you can keep heated. Either by using a heater or you can use an acrylic bowl of around 2 gallons and fill it half full and float in the main tank. She will need 100% water changes every other day along with the redosing of meds. Please look for Seachem Kanaplex or Furan 2 by API. Do you know how to dilute meds for smaller containers?

This is how you do large water changes without shocking:

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To do a water change, use a little cup like a plastic solo cup - this cup must be only for him and have never been used with soap or other chems. Scoop him up in this cup (keep him in the cup about 1/4 full of water - it doesn't need to be much because he won't be in it for long) and leave him in the cup while you change his water. To do the 50% use a turkey baster - dedicated only to him that has never seen soap or chems - and drag it through the gravel and try to suck as much of the poop out as possible, in addition to 50% of the water. Use a thermometer under the running tap to get it to be the same temp as the water that is normally in his tank. When the thermometer says the flowing tap is the right temp, fill back up his tank. At this point, add the conditioner (dose for how much water you change - if you change half the water you add half gallon worth of conditioner, If you do a 100% water change dose for the full gallon change). Float his plastic cup with him in it in the new water. Slowly add a couple tablespoons of the new water into his cup every 10 minutes for at least an hour. Finally, dump him in gently but try to get as little of the old cup water back into the tank as possible. When you do the weekly 100% you will do mostly the same thing except empty his tank fully and rinse everything in it very well under warm water but never use soaps or chemicals. Once it's fully cleaned/rinsed you can refill it and repeat the cup/acclimate phase.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:30 AM   #3 
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Callistra said it all!
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:01 AM   #4 
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What size is your tank?
30 by 30 square tank

What temperature is your tank?
I have never measured the temperature before and do not really have anything i can use to measure it

Does your tank have a filter?
yes it does. The brand is a H-300 Dolphin.

Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
if you mean an air pump, i do not have an air pump installed in my tank

Is your tank heated?
No, i do not own a heater.

What tank mates does your betta fish live with?
A bunch of corydoras, some otocinclus cat fish suckers. one balloon lamp eye fish, 2 black phantom tetras (though it will soon be 1 as 1 of them is sick as well) 1 other female betta who's younger and 1 male betta.

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
as of now i bought the wrong type, usually i feed them flakes meant for goldfish. now their living off Sanyu Tropical flakes.

How often do you feed your betta fish?
once a day in the morning.

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
once a week or once every 2 weeks

What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
Half the tank water, if it's a been 2 weeks since the last change I tend to change 60%

What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

if you mean by the stuff i add to make the water safe for my fish. I'm currently using nutrafin aqua plus

Water Parameters:

I have never tested my water before.

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
her colors have gotten slightly duller. she darker then I remember. and slightly thin (probably due to the fact that she's not use to the food. which i plan to change soon)

How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
Hides most of the time, i cannot find her in my tank half the time

When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Quite awhile ago, I would say at least 3 months

Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
No i have not, though i do care for my fish, when they are sick i tend to do nothing

Does your fish have any history of being ill?
no, all my fish die from disease and never get better

How old is your fish (approximately)?
Roughly 2 years, she was given to me by a friend who's tank was infected by something that was making his fish die.


I've never really done anything for my sick betta fish before. so no I don't know how to dilute meds for smaller containers.
My males have always gotten along well with my females. i only knew never to put 2 males together, always thought male and female fish could be placed together in one big tank.
as if now i just want to know what's happening to my female betta. I am unable to move her out of the current tank because i do not have a spare filter and the space to set up a quarantine tank.
currently waiting for the population in my tank to die so i can restart with just 1 fish. all my fish have been with me for 3 years and i have not bought and do not plan to add any more fish to my tank.

i just want to know/identify the problem that is happening with this female of mine if there is a name to what's going on, on her face.

Thank you for the replies
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:38 AM   #5 
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Well I'm a little confused, if you want them to die off so you can start over with one fish why are you asking how to help her? IME, when the tank temp is not kept at least 76F & regular water changes are not done they get diseases or illnesses. It is possible she was attacked by one of your other fish since your tank is not properly stocked. When my female had body rot, I put her into a properly heated, filtered & sized tank & she healed with clean water. You don't have to set up a QT tank, get a Tupperware bowl or something similar that you can put water in, you can float it in the bigger tank. Somebody else will advise on meds
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:02 AM   #6 
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That's the thing, I'm not really asking how to help her.
i just want to know if there's any identification to what's happening to her. Is there any name (e.g bacterial infection, fungus growth ) to what's happening to her face besides the fact that it could be a wound that's not healing
in the future i will be more serious with caring for any betta fish i get, but right now i'm only here to find out what i do not know.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:11 AM   #7 
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Your pictures aren't that clear, but it exactly your subject title.

The female betta had it's face ripped off so what you're seeing is the exposed flesh.

If that still doesn't make sense, basically if I tore off the skin off your face, it would look like the guy from the Freddy Krueger movie minus the skin.

Bettas have white flesh like haddock/cod. It's not pink like salmon.

I'm sure you've had steamed fish before, there's only muscle around the cheek area for most fish. The rest is mostly bones/cartilage

When a fish gets injured, it HIDES so it can SURVIVE another day.

Good luck to your new fish when the rest of rest of the inhabitants pass away.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:58 AM   #8 
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Please do the humane thing & either rehome all of your fish or euthanize them humanely so they don't continue to suffer and please don't get more. They are living creatures that deserve to be cared for properly.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:02 AM   #9 
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i see. okay.

how do you euthanize fish? really never heard of it before so if i can i would.

thanks for your in put.

Don't worry i won't be getting any more until i learn how to care for them properly.
i haven;t gotten any news ones ever since the current inhabitants started getting sick.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:45 AM   #10 
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Thank you for being open minded its a shame to euthanize them all instead of finding new homes but there different methods for euthanization. Here is what some consider the most humane:
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-...ize-a-fish.htm

There are other methods which you can google.
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