2 new rescue attempts...*Really bad!* PLEASE HELP

[callistra]

That is a mess.. I don't have experience with fry fish so I can just tell you how I would approach this if they were adults..

Bent spine is fish tb, advanced internal parasite infection, or just general starvation/malnutrition. - this one I would emphasize clean warm water + salt as outlined in the sticky on how to treat ick. I would feed NLS Growth Formula or Thera A.

The fungal stuff.. is it fluffy patches? I always treat fluffy patches with Kanaplex by Seachem.\

Sakura8 or OFL should know more about fry specifically.

[Artist with a betta]

Originally Posted by Meggie6347

I am having a hard time finding my camera...

I haven't dosed anything yet, they are just in some warm clean water...I don't know what I should do....especially for the first one? Should I try to attack the ich first? Are there any ich medications that aren't safe for baby bettas? Or should I just do aquarium salt? For both of them? And how much for the cups?

Sorry for all the questions!

I would use aquarium salt the normal dosage is 1 teaspoon per gallon I guess you could take the size of the floating cups and fraction it out. As for the "L" shape of the second one it sounds to me He/she may have scoliosis, I'm not quite sure if there's a cure for this. The salt should cure the ich and help heal skin and fins so that would probably be your best bet.

I'm not quite sure the affects of salt on baby bettas since all mine have been at least 1 year when I got them. I hope this helps.

[Artist with a betta]

Originally Posted by callistra

That is a mess.. I don't have experience with fry fish so I can just tell you how I would approach this if they were adults..

Bent spine is fish tb, advanced internal parasite infection, or just general starvation/malnutrition. - this one I would emphasize clean warm water + salt as outlined in the sticky on how to treat ick. I would feed NLS Growth Formula or Thera A.

The fungal stuff.. is it fluffy patches? I always treat fluffy patches with Kanaplex by Seachem.\

Sakura8 or OFL should know more about fry specifically.

Yes I would PM OFL asap she would definitely know how to help with this.

[Meggie6347]

Thank you all...I will PM her.

As for the fungal or bacterial...I don't know if it is there for sure, except the fin rot and red gills on the first one...however, my biggest worry with the first one is her ich. And I don't want to treat her with something that might be too strong with a baby...can babies handle the same dosage that adults can?

The second one's spine isn't bent up...the best way I can describe it is that from a bird's eye view it is in an "s" shape..Kind of like this, but worse:



Good news: I haven't had time to unpackage my microworms yet, but I did manage to get them to eat some spirulina brine shrimp...it seems small enough. Poor things.

[Kytkattin]

Maybe you could use one of these to house them in temporarily? At least then you wouldn't have to worry about changing their individual cups as they would share tank water. You could even use the divider and put both in the same hatchery to save money.

http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=3814565

[Meggie6347]

That's a great little container!...if I did that they wouldn't share tank water with the rest of the ten gallon? Would they share it with each other because they both have different things

I do have a 1/3 gallon betta keeper that I could put one in...however, she would have to float in my king male's ten gallon...but I am worried that it would stress the baby out since he is so huge

They are so tiny that even the cup looks huge with them in it...

[Tikibirds]

If they are sick enough, I'm not sure if the adult would matter much. Since they are babies they need to be in heated water, moreso then adults.

[dramaqueen]

First of all they need warm, clean water. I think a little salt would be ok. I'd be hesitant to add any meds since they're so small. You can feed them frozen daphnia or brine shrimp. Maybe try someHikari micro pellets. Good luck with them.

[Meggie6347]

Thank you.

They are in warm clean water...about to be changed for the second time since I got them today...

I will measure out the size of the cups tomorrow and try adding salt.

Thank you all so much!
Any more suggestions are highly appreciated!

[callistra]

Yep that's classic tb/parasite sign. Be very very careful and don't use anything in that one's tank that comes near your others. He could just be very malnourished but you don't want to take the risk. If he's just malnourished that should straighten out over time. It's also possibly a birth defect, but those don't usually make it to pet stores.