little dude is in trouble tell me what I am seeing

[syds mom]

Not again, I just got Syd well and he is doing great, Now little dude is in trouble, I noticed he was bloated yesterday so I have him in a 2.5 gallon with epsom salt. Got close to him and took pics. Please look at them and tell me what Im seeing.

[callistra]

You're seeing dropsy.

More info is needed here: http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=73332

In the meantime epsoms at 1-3 tsp per gallon - 1st tsp predissolved and added slowly over an hour. You can do it again every 12 hours if you want.

He's going to need some meds too.. I like Kanaplex by seachem. What color is his poop?

[syds mom]

I just wanted another opinion. I thought so but didnt want to admit it. Oh no.
I have already got him in a 2.5 with 4 teaspoons. I did the 2 tsp per gallon. Havent seen him poop

[syds mom]

Callistra, I do have kanaplex here.

[syds mom]

Callistra I am not seeing anything about dropsy there

[syds mom]

Do I use the kanaplex with the epsom salt and if so how much kanaplex to 2 gallons water

[syds mom]

Im doing the kanaplex now. How often should I change water and add epsom salt and kanaplex back in

[LittleBlueFishlets]

From Seachem's website:

"Use 1 level spoonful (180 mg) for every 20 L (5 gallons). Repeat every 2 days as required up to a maximum of 3 doses. Turn off UV, ozone, and chemical filtration. To feed, blend 1 measure with about 1 tablespoon of frozen food paste. Food may be refrozen."
http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod.../KanaPlex.html

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And on another page, someone asked questions about usage. The questions, and Seachem's reply are below:

"(1) The Kanaplex instructions say to dose once every 2 days, up to 3 doses. Does this mean that after 2 days, the dose is no longer active in the water column (and thus the next dose needs to be added then?)

(2) If the infection being treated doesn't seem to have subsided fully or satisfactorily by the end of the 3 recommended treatments on the package, can a 4th dose be given relatively safely?

(3) How long after a course of treatment (3 doses over 6 days) should you wait before giving another course of treatment, assuming the fish shows signs of deterioration after the Kanaplex is discontinued?

Thanks so much! Any information is really appreciated."

Seachem's reply:
"You are correct, after 48 hours Kanaplex is no longer active at high enough concentrations for effective treatment. This is common with many medications as different conditions in the tank can degrade them.

Continuing the treatment after the dose should not harm the fish but could begin damaging your bacterial filtration. I don't thing there would be a problem adding one more dose but if the fish is looking better after that I would give the tank 3-4 days to recover. If you would like to continue treatment after that, it would be fine. However, if the fish is not looking better or if you feel he needs to be treated further, you can continue with the standard dosing regime. After such dosing it would be advisable to use a bacterial supplement such as Stability to help rebuild the biological filtration."


Question and reply from: http://www.seachem.com/support/forum...ead.php?t=3844

[eatmice2010]

Its dropsy

[syds mom]

I never dealt with dropsy before, I just remember seeing pics and I thought oh no this cant be happening. I wanted to see if others were seeing what I was seeing.