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Old 01-17-2013, 06:56 PM   #1 
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Question blackish scales on Rose.

so, yesterday, I noticed that my new betta, Rose, had some scales that had a black "outline". I decided to ignore the black that day.

Today, I found more black on the same scales and looked at the myco thread. I saw a picture of some gray fuzz. I looked around for gray fuzz on Rose and found some fuzz on her scale. it looked a little silver, since it was in the light. I told my parents that my betta needs to be QTed because it may have myco. my parents just said that myco is fake and it was possible my imagination. (I disagree, myco is REALLY REAL REAL)

Does anyone know what I should do?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:04 PM   #2 
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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?


Quarantine him despite your parents think, practice good bio security, and please provide pictures as well.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:06 PM   #3 
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Mycobacteria is real. There are a lot of strains of it, not just the 'mystery disease.' That said, it does NOT mean this is what Rose has!

More likely, Rose is stressed out. She's a new member of a tank that's overstocked.... And yes, I know that you know this. And I also know that your parents added the fish, and that you can't do anything about it.

What "medications" do you have on hand? If I recall correctly, you have aquarium salt. Do you have anything else? And what will your parents let you do?

Tell us that, and maybe someone can recommend something for you.

How frequently are you doing water changes? And do you know the temperature in the tank?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:15 PM   #4 
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Housing
What size is your tank? 5 gallons
What temperature is your tank? 82 degrees fahrenheit
Does your tank have a filter? yup
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? no
Is your tank heated? yes, with a light
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? 4 danios, 3 tetras, 2 guppies and King Dedede (blaming my parents)

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? pellets and sometimes flakes
How often do you feed your betta fish? twice a day for both

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? twice weekly, I think
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? %100 or %50
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? water conditioner

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia: no test kit
Nitrite: no test kit
Nitrate:no test kit
pH: no test kit
Hardness:no test kit
Alkalinity: no test kit

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? gray fuzz and some scales with black outlines, outlines get thicker each day
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? a little lethargic
When did you start noticing the symptoms? yesterday
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? nope
Does your fish have any history of being ill? no
How old is your fish (approximately)? I don't know
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:19 PM   #5 
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Mycobacteria is real. There are a lot of strains of it, not just the 'mystery disease.' That said, it does NOT mean this is what Rose has!

More likely, Rose is stressed out. She's a new member of a tank that's overstocked.... And yes, I know that you know this. And I also know that your parents added the fish, and that you can't do anything about it.

What "medications" do you have on hand? If I recall correctly, you have aquarium salt. Do you have anything else? And what will your parents let you do?

Tell us that, and maybe someone can recommend something for you.

How frequently are you doing water changes? And do you know the temperature in the tank?
only AQ salt...
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:21 PM   #6 
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Due to the overcrowding, I would say she's coming down with a bacterial infection. Don't jump to conclusions, it may not be the same mycobacteria that everyone is talking about.

I know there's nothing you can do but keep trying to convince him that the tank is overcrowded and the fish will get sick. Just be respectful.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:22 PM   #7 
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Due to the overcrowding, I would say she's coming down with a bacterial infection. Don't jump to conclusions, it may not be the same mycobacteria that everyone is talking about.

I know there's nothing you can do but keep trying to convince him that the tank is overcrowded and the fish will get sick. Just be respectful.

oh... okay
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You should never do such huge changes in that size tank, you will ruin the cycle. You tank is also over stocked.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:29 PM   #9 
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You should never do such huge changes in that size tank, you will ruin the cycle. You tank is also over stocked.
I know. I blame my dad for the overstocking
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In this case, the cycle isn't going to help. The only way to control the amount of waste being produced is with large water changes. In an ordinary tank though, I would agree that a large water change isn't helping.
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