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Old 04-20-2013, 09:13 AM   #21 
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Maybe breed her for butterfly or no band and use a sibling as sire?
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:18 PM   #22 
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Darth, that was put absolutely perfectly. It's about time that the organization that runs things in the betta world steps up to the plate and recognizes the advancements that have been made. Orange Dalmatians, dragonscales, veiltails, elephant ears, dragonflys (very much hoping this term catches on-IMO they can be more beautiful then true butterfly's), black lace etc etc, which are all undeniably beautiful fish that one organization says aren't good enough because they don't meet standards that they made. I would love some change.
It is not that they are not good enough. It is they are not bred and shown in numbers to make them have their own class worth while. You show the fish in vatiations and that is what I will start doing with my Dragonflys. And to get them established you have to show a lot of them. Maybe get a few others showing them. Then a standard is created and class set up. Remember the other side of a coin. Judging a class takes time and there is the expense of the ribbons and time for registrar to keep up with points. Maybe the cost is not much for ribbons or time.. but it still is there. And if you have never worked a show you have no idea how exhausting it ca be.. so extra classes need to be valid with a good number of supporting entries.

And the standard colors are also part of preserving where the bettas started. Thirty years ago we had red, blue green and cambodian..,. and their mixtures. Now we never see a Cambodian male.. stunning fish and a color I'm working to bring back as it was. So the standards and people breeding to them are preservation for the bettas as well.

I have some ideas about creating some classes to show some of these other fish in, no points, but still a class. Then it is going to be put back on ya'll to see if you will really breed these colors and SHOW them. And I'm trying to get some place for the VT in shows too.. but again, must be to a standard and the already established IBC show colors.For anything to be shown a standard has to be established and a fault system created. Just saying that is a pretty fish and giving a ribbon will not cut it.

I am running for election for the office of President of the IBC. Don't want to get in trouble here.. but as betta lovers and breeders you may be interested in some of my ideas. Here is a link to my platform: http://bettasource.com/ibc2013

It can be removed if not appropriate for this site. As some of you are on the fence about membership in the IBC, you may be interested in the current elections. Voting is from now to June at convention. You do have to be a member to vote, but if you like what I have to say and want the IBC taken that direction, consider joining and casting your vote. And then consider what talents you may have to offer. If you are passionate about these fish we always need local clubs, so lets get one organized. Or maybe you can help put our publication Flare! together or write some articles. Are you a super geek? Could use you help on the web site and we want to use video streaming to allow those not attending shows to "still be there". The IBC belongs to its members. It is easy to criticize from the outside, or even the inside.. the question then becomes what are you willing to do to see some of the changes you want happen? I decided enough was enough and to run for president. How about you?
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Old 04-20-2013, 01:21 PM   #23 
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wow she is gorgeous!!
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:02 PM   #24 
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There you VT lovers , you just heard from the next IBC president if you do 2 things, join and vote...breed some nice veils...I have a dalmation veil in the breeding tank right now with a HM female, why?
Because the color is unreal and after a couple gens I will also have HM or superdeltas..so for those that say do not breed halfmoons to veils I imagine they are not willing to go that many gens to see results, first gen will be all veils F2 however WILL show some things and F3 will absolutely be awesome!!
So, if you are breeding anyway, have a little fun..I also have the best Blue body orange finned veil I ever saw for color just awesome..I bred him to a yellow girl HM, like I said I have a reason for breeding some Veils and a method to the madness, understand this is a lot of work when all I have to do is find fish of equal color in HM...guess what?
There isn't any these colors with the intensity so before you breeders poo-poo the veil remember there are many genes that aren't as polluted in them.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:08 PM   #25 
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There is your next president of IBC...IF..you join and vote!!
I use Veil tails still for breeding because many of the colors are far more intense.
Before you breeders out there Poo-Poo the veil remember, it may take 3 generations before a good HM or SD will come out , but it surley will.
And also, some of the purest forms of colors can still be found in the veil.
I have 2 that are uneqaled in color by any HM I have seen yet.
One is an electric blue bodied male with Intense orange fins, the other is a dalmation{Orange} with dark orange spots.
I also have the smoothest orange colored veil I ever saw, he is just smooth you cannot even see the scales!!
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:09 PM   #26 
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Whoops double post, it said there was an error and I didn't see the first one take anyway they are different enough so what the hey?
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:53 PM   #27 
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To get an official class to show the VT we really have to put our fish where our mouths are. they HAVE to be sent to shows.. and they HAVE to be bred with the color standards in mind. Colorful bettas are very pretty.. but to impact the powers that be and show them VT breeders are serious, gonna need to breed and show quality traditional colors. I've seen some red and steel VT's I wish their color was on my HM fish.. so ya'll get breeding and I want to start seeing them in the shows.
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:01 PM   #28 
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Yes, and I have been watching what has been said by thise exact powers....If you want veils in there...and I quote "We have a place for Veils' just the fact is nobody ever sends them to the shows!!!!!
So...if you want them in there, BREED them yourselves, breed for the standard...and get them out there or attend shows!!
Now, no more whinning, lets see the action!!!
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