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Old 01-21-2013, 09:16 PM   #1 
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Can I use IAL along with Epsom Salt?

I'm treating one of my bettas for constipation with Epsom Salt.

I'm doing 1tsp Epsom salt per gallon.. I saw on another thread that you can add more than 1tsp per gallon??

I'm on the third day of treatment.. so I'm wondering if it would be okay to add some IAL in the Qtank with the Epsom salt?

I can't get access to Frozen Daphnia till this weekend.

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Old 01-21-2013, 09:31 PM   #2 
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Should be okay unless you naturally have very soft water/acidic. Both items will drop your ph so if it's already on the low then that's the only time it might cause problems.

Some people use more.. I've never even needed more than 1/2 tsp and most of time just 1/4 tsp. What are you treating for? More info would be helpful: http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=49233
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:38 PM   #3 
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Constipation..

I have him in quarantine with daily water changes...

Housing
What size is your tank? 2.5
What temperature is your tank? 82
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? no
Is your tank heated? yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? none

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? Hikari Betta Bio-Gold
How often do you feed your betta fish? 4 to 5 pellets a day

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change? 50% mid week 100% end of week
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? same as above.
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? Prime

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? Bloated
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? No
When did you start noticing the symptoms? 3 days ago
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? Yes.. Epsom salt
Does your fish have any history of being ill? No
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:39 PM   #4 
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also want to note that my tank is bare bottom so I can always tell if hes pooped and he hasnt for a while..
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The only thing that sticks out to me is his food..

Hikari tends to lend itself to this problem because of its high wheat content. I would look for another pellet.. one whose first two or three ingredients are whole fish, not fish meal or wheat.

You're also feeding on the high end.. that's not to say that some bettas are okay with that but you could easily cut that back to 3-4 and he'd be fine. Maybe he'd be less prone to constipation. Also whatever you feed you should do one fast day a week, as that will also help keep him regular.

The epsoms should get him moving. When he does poop I expect it to be a round ball the color of his pellets. If it's white, clear or mucas like then he has an infection too.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:00 PM   #6 
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IAL is okay to use with epsom. OFL gave me a remedy for my old fish containing the two ingredients before. I wouldn't increase the salt though. Warm temp, fasting and epsom should help.
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what brand would you recommend for food??

I'll cut back to 3 a day when i'm able to feed again.

but would adding IAL also help?
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Personally I like and feed New Life Spectrum Betta. They're smaller so you can feed more. My smallest get 5 a day and my biggest get 8. I split them into two feedings and fast one day a week. Omega One Betta Buffet is another one. It's more the size of your Hikari you're used to.

IAL won't help with constipation but it can help with stress and infection.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:35 PM   #9 
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Ok.. Thanks!

I'll get to the pet store this weekend.. but i'll definitely cut back on how much I feed to my other guys to make sure they don't get constipated till then.

Should I pick up some Frozen Daphnia Just in case it doesnt work?
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I find epsoms more effective than daphnia but it wouldn't hurt to have it on hand. Some enjoy it and you could feed a little pellet sized chunk once a week to keep them regular. It's an option, but not necessary.
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