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Old 02-10-2013, 11:34 AM   #1 
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White as a ghost

Housing
What size is your tank? 3g
What temperature is your tank? 78(+-2)
Does your tank have a filter? Yes
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? Yes
Is your tank heated? Yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? No

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? BettaMin Tropical Medely
How often do you feed your betta fish? Once a day

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? 30% twice a week
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? See above
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? Bettasafe

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?
No, no kit
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Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? Yes
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? No
When did you start noticing the symptoms? Sense the day I purchased him
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? Nothing
Does your fish have any history of being ill? N/A
How old is your fish (approximately)? 4 days here so prob a few months


I noticed a small amount of bloating in him sense the day I got him and wrote it off to stress. Through my worry I posted in the fishcare multiple times and everything seemed fine despite the fact that he wasnt eating. His fins are completely fine, no signs of any parasites that I know of but his stomach has been slowly getting whiter and whiter.
Yesterday I was watching him breathe and saw a whitespot behind his gills, almost looked like a missing scale and his belly was grey overnight was has gone to a partially grey belly has switched to a completely white belly. I cant get a photo of it it doesnt show up when I try to take it.

I havnt seen him eat or dedicate once. While the holes that he should be doing his business from are completely white.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:00 PM   #2 
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Has your tank only been set up for 4 days as well? If so, I would up the water changes to 40-50% every 2-3 days while the tank is cycling. I'm not sure I understand your last sentence "While the holes that he should be doing his business from are completely white", are you sure you have a male? Are you seeing a white dot on the underside of your fish? If so it sounds like you are seeing ovipositor which is typically found on a female. Is youre tank bare bottom, what kind of substrate are you using? I know I don't typically see my fish poo unless the tank is bare bottom or I catch them in the act. Its not uncommon for a Betta not to eat in the 1st week or so of going to a new home. You can try some epsom salt its a natural laxative & can help with swelling if there is any, start with 1tsp per gallon pre dissolved & add 1/2 of the mixture to the tank wait an hour then add the other half. You may have to switch to a different brand of food, some Bettas are picky.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:14 PM   #3 
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Has your tank only been set up for 4 days as well? If so, I would up the water changes to 40-50% every 2-3 days while the tank is cycling. I'm not sure I understand your last sentence "While the holes that he should be doing his business from are completely white", are you sure you have a male? Are you seeing a white dot on the underside of your fish? If so it sounds like you are seeing ovipositor which is typically found on a female. Is youre tank bare bottom, what kind of substrate are you using? I know I don't typically see my fish poo unless the tank is bare bottom or I catch them in the act. Its not uncommon for a Betta not to eat in the 1st week or so of going to a new home. You can try some epsom salt its a natural laxative & can help with swelling if there is any, start with 1tsp per gallon pre dissolved & add 1/2 of the mixture to the tank wait an hour then add the other half. You may have to switch to a different brand of food, some Bettas are picky.
Well between his ventral fins are these 2 white dots. They look like holes. Ive seen a video where they poop from there? Its around where the intestines end on the anatomy of the fish itself. If its a female is a crazy lookin female.

This is from like day 2


Im using white gravel

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Old 02-10-2013, 12:23 PM   #4 
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hmm, on the white dots. BUT if he hasn't eaten then there isn't anything for him to poo. Have you tried any treatments? As I previously stated, its not unusual for a new Betta to not eat for the 1st week. You can try the epsom salt treatment & you may need to offer him a different brand of food.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:30 PM   #5 
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Nothing yet I caught him leaning on his side last night and he has this habit of swimming to the top then just letting himself sink to the bottom. I assumed that was normal but the leaning on his side worried me. He was bloated but now he's losing color on the bottom half of his face
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How did you acclimate him to the new water when you brought him home?

Do you know the ph of your water?
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How did you acclimate him to the new water when you brought him home?

Do you know the ph of your water?
Idk the ph. I had him sit in the water for acouple minutes and when I felt he was ready for the water I lowered him completely in. I think it finally defecated, it was clearish not stringy. He was swimming around like he was looking for something when I got home.
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You shocked him. It's very important to include an acclimation period to new water. It should have been at minimum a half an hour floating in the main tank and doing a minimum of series of several 50% changes adding new water during this time. More ideal would have been an hour float with adding a few tablespoons every 10min

Clear poop is internal infection, but due to the nature of the shock I would wait until his next poop and if it's still not normal he will need medication. It could just be from constipation. I would keep fasting him a few days and add 1 tsp per gallon epsom salt - must be 100% pure magnesium sulfate with no dyes, perfumes or additives of any kind. I get mine from CVS Pharmacy. It should be predissolved and added slowly over an hour to avoid more shock. Leave him in that at least a week and until you see a lot more poop.

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