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Old 02-14-2013, 09:21 PM   #1 
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Exclamation Beginning stages of dropsy? Help

Hi everyone,
I need help. While feeding my betta Mushu tonight I noticed that on his left side there seems to either be a silver white blemish on him or it is a single scale standing away from his body. It's really hard to tell because he is moving so much. He has a great appetite, is not lethargic in any way at all. He is in a 10 gal filter and heated tank (78 degrees) he lives with three Corys. He is still healing from a torn dorsal fin. What should I do? Thanks
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:27 PM   #2 
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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
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Pictures would be very, very helpful as well. If he is very active and there is only One scaly it is probably not dropsy.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:38 PM   #3 
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10 gal tank
78 degrees
Filtered with sponge baffle to slow current
No air stone or other sort of aeration
Heated tank
3 Julii Cory cats

Aqueon betta pellets, NLS and (brine shrimp/ bloodworm as treats)
2 feedings a day 3 pellets each

I have only had him for a week was planning on a partial water change tomorrow (25%)
No additives except safestart and aqua safe or betta water conditioner

Have not tested water

Appearance:
Brightly colored. However I noticed a silver/white bump on left side towards tail (3/4 down from head). Looks like a single scale is standing out or just a bump. Hard to tell because betta is moving so much
Acting normal swimming around and darting here and there
Noticed this at tonight's feeding at 615
No treatment started yet
Still healing from torn dorsal fin
Around 4 to 6 months a little over an inch in length minus fins

I will try to get a picture to post
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:50 PM   #4 
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See that silver thing on his side. Sorry that's the best I can do. Moves so fast. I can try later tonight for a better shot.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:17 AM   #5 
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Ok. I can't tell from the pic but you are doing everything right. Is the tank cycled? Is he bloating at all? If he is not bloating just care for him like normal and wait. He should be fine. And by the way aqueon isn't very good food, I would primarily have him on NLS but aqueon is fine to switch it up for one feeding every once in a while.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:37 AM   #6 
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Thanks for your response. Unfortunately I did not have a chance to cycle the tank prior to purchasing him. I added safestart and aqua safe plus to the tank. I went ahead and did a 1 gallon water change tonight so roughly a 10% change. I added the safestart and aqua safe plus to the need water and made sure the temps were the same. He is not bloated that I can tell. Tomorrow is his fasting day. I think it could be a loose scale. I have had five bettas in the past. My first one was in high school but it died of dropsy in the first month I had him. That's why I am freakish out a little bit ;p. the other four I kept for several years each and they traveled with me to college and home over breaks. I had them in 2 gallon heated and filtered tanks. But I am concerned with my betta now as I have never seen this on any of my other bettas before. He is also the smallest betta I have owned. And thanks for the info on the food. I do feed NLS on a regular basis but I use Aqueon here and there as a change. I also have bettamin flakes. He really doesnt like them. Do you think I should add in any aq salt? The aqua safe plus does provide a stress coat and says it helps heal wounds and fins. I would assume that means it would also help to heal a scale that is falling off or loose. Thank you again by much. I jst joined here a few days ago but I have referenced this site a lot. So thank you again for all your help.
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Nah salt can be stressful. It's probably not necessary. Research how to do a fish in cycle please!
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Early signs of dropsy? Help!

Here is a better picture. I hope this is more clear to easy. The spot can only be seen in a certain light/angle or when viewed from above.
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Sorry forgot to upload the pic
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Will do thanks for the advice. I did purchase a water testing kit to monitor my ammonia, pH, nitrate and nitrite and hardness levels. I will be testing starting tomorrow morning.
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