New HM Female from Petsmart

[Hadoken Kitty]

This should help you. This girl has four rays.

[wah543]

I can't really it looks like it forks and folds over eachother, but I just held a mirror to her to see if she would flare and her tail curved out to like a capital D is it possible to have like a high spreading veiltail or delta

[Hadoken Kitty]

In females, a majority of their tails look similar, so when looking at a female it's a lot easier to just count the rays to try and differentiate what tail type she is/genes she carries.

[MoonShadow]

A bettas ray count is based on the highest number of rays present. While she does have only 2 rays in places, she clearly displays 4 rays in at least 1 place and therefore would be considered a 4 ray. And since veiltails never display more then 2 rays she would be considered a single tail or delta, not a veiltail

[wah543]

Thanks for the clarification, now I'm always going to be looking at these rays, but at she's better than nothing, I was expecting a veiltail with nice colors ended up with something more

[MoonShadow]

Originally Posted by MattsBettas

And MoonShadow is wrong, she clearly has two rays. Believe me, I own a four ray female and it is way more obvious. She may be a PK, which would have two rays as well.

Rays don't have to be in your face obvious to be there. She clearly has more then 2 rays in spots, its easy to see if you look for it. And she is definitely not a plakat her anal and caudal are too long and her anal is not the right shape for a plakat

[MattsBettas]

Oh yea she is not a PK. But... She is a veiltail. She has two rays. MoonShadow, have you ever owned a four ray female?

[MoonShadow]

Originally Posted by MattsBettas

Oh yea she is not a PK. But... She is a veiltail. She has two rays. MoonShadow, have you ever owned a four ray female?

I have owned 4, 8, 10, 12, and 16 rayed females. This female has obvious branching beyond the 2 rays, its not clear and defined but it is there.

[MattsBettas]

First of all, there is no visible 4 ray branching. Second of all, you are compleatly ignoring the fact that petsmart does not sell delta or halfmoon females.

[MoonShadow]

Originally Posted by MattsBettas

First of all, there is no visible 4 ray branching. Second of all, you are compleatly ignoring the fact that petsmart does not sell delta or halfmoon females.

I see the branching, it's small and not clearly defined but it is there, she very obviously has more then 2 rays in more then one spot. And mix ups can happen when the fish are packaged and sent to the store. I have gotten a couple delta females and a doubletail female at petsmart. Not to mention a halfmoon plakat labled as a girl (before they started selling plakats) and a 2 halfmoons labled as veiltails (before they ever began selling halfmoons)