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Old 03-12-2013, 08:56 AM   #1 
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Help! Fish may be dying!!

I am using a betta fish in a school project. It is an ecocolumn. Basically there are many layers and the water that goes to him goes through soil, and then compost. He has a live plant and gravel in his little part of the column. He was doing fine yesterday and all the tests for the water seemed fine. Though the water is cloudy. He even built a bubble nest!

I came in this morning and I thought he was dead. His fins have turned white and seems to have bubbles attached to them. He can't move them well. I did a half water change with the distilled water and took out some of the debris that was on top. Please tell me what I can do to save my fish! I love him very much!

His name is Blue Man Chu.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:09 AM   #2 
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How big is this container?
What do you mean by the water was fine, are you talking about ammonia/nitrite/nitrate? How was it tested?
How is he fed?
Is this heated?
Does he have access to air, as they will suffocate if not given an access to come up for air (air breather)?
How long have you had him? Did you quarantine him/check him for illness first?
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:14 AM   #3 
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How big is this container?
What do you mean by the water was fine, are you talking about ammonia/nitrite/nitrate? How was it tested?
How is he fed?
Is this heated?
Does he have access to air, as they will suffocate if not given an access to come up for air (air breather)?
How long have you had him? Did you quarantine him/check him for illness first?
Ammonia, nitrate, pH, Phsophate and dissolved oxygen were all fine.
He is fed 2-3 pellets twice a day.
It is under a heat lamp, and the room is warm.
He has access to air through a slit in the bottle. I made the slit bigger after his water change.
I have had him since last Thursday. I checked him for illness. He was the strongest of the ones at Petsmart. He just had some of the ends of his fins a little burned, but not much at all.
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The container is 2/3 of a 2 liter. My teacher has done this project often and it is for 3 weeks. Only some fish pass away. I am taking him home after, if he makes it, which I hope he does.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:17 AM   #5 
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Distilled water is not appropriate for betta fish. You need tap with a water conditioner added Prime is a good brand. This enviroment does not sound appropriate for a betta. I just looked up your project. The students doing the project predict their fish will die.

https://sites.google.com/site/ecocolumnhomes/

Now I am not saying your fish is going to die right now but this project sounds bad to involve him in as his health is already showing. I would go the betta care section of this website an read up on the proper care for a betta and get the supplies you need to house him properly and do a different project. Please acclimate him properly to the new tank or he may go into shock.

Some else who knows more will have to help you figure out if he has a disease.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:20 AM   #6 
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How can I acclimate him properly?
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And thank you for all your help.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:43 AM   #8 
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I got this off some websites it's good advice. I am not crediting them because they have other links that give some not as good advice.


After you have a read our betta care section if you find you are faced with financial obstacles let me know I can lead to you to some cheaper supplies.



Transporting your bettas.
Try to take with you a small box (small coolers work great!!) to place the bagged betta(s) in. Some newspapers can be used to keep the bag(s) from moving around inside the box. Once the bags are secured, place the box or cooler in your car on the floor, or have your passenger keep them on their lap. Keep away from direct sunlight or A/C vents. The big NONO is to stop along the way and run some errands while you are at it. You just can't do that. The temperature in a car fluctuates greatly and rapidly. Park it in the sun for a miserable few minutes and your bettas might turn into fish soup >:(( . Park it in the cold and they might get hypothermia. So for God's sake, just drive home, straight home, you'll do your shopping later!!! LOL

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Control your impulse!!
Of course, if you are as impatient as I am, you probably are dying to see your new bettas swimming in their new tank. You would just looOOooove to just dump them right in there. Behold! Impatience can kill. So control your impulses, don't be selfish and think about your betta's well being first. After all, you will have months and hopefully a couple of years to admire him in his new tank/jar, but only 24 hrs to acclimate him properly. So do the job right :). TAKE THE TIME NECESSARY to do the transition smoothly. Don't rush it. Fish are EXTREMELY sensitive to water temperature or water quality changes and any abrupt changes will cause dramatic stress for the fishes.
Now some of you may already have brought your Betta home from the
store and put it in the tank, so if you didn’t do things exactly
right so don’t worry. It’s generally not a life or death situation
if done incorrectly, but if done properly will greatly reduce the
stress your Betta goes through.
Just try to keep those tips in mind for any future Betta Fish that
you buy.
– Acclimating your Betta Fish –
Remember how your Betta Fish doesn’t like rapid changes in
environment? Well the water that is in the bag most likely is not
exactly like the tank that you prepared.
Here’s some tips on how to transition your Betta into his new tank:
* let the bag float in the tank for at least a few hours. What this
does is make the temperature in the bag the same as the tank.
This way there is no temperature shock to your Betta Fish when
released into the tank.
* if the fish is in a bag try cutting a small hole in the bag to let
some tank water in. You want to slowly get the tank water to blend
with the bag water. The worst thing you could do is simply dump
the whole bag in the tank when you get home.
* use a clothespin or tape to keep the bag hanging in the tank and
cut more holes every hour or so until the bag seems completely
full with tank water
– Quarantine Tank –
Another option to acclimate your Betta is to use what’s called a
Quarantine Tank, which is a temporary tank the Betta lives
in for a week or so before moving to its permanent tank.
It allows the Betta to “de-stress” from the ride home before
encountering its permanent home with gravel, plants, and filters.
Plus the Quarantine tank allows the Betta to slowly adjust to water
conditions at home.
* You can use a clean vase or small tank and simply pour the Betta
into it using the water from the bag. Slowly add water from
(or similar to) the ‘big’ tank to this quarantine tank. This
allows the fish to acclimate to the new water.
* Once the quarantine tank is full mostly of ‘new’ tank water then
your Betta should be ready for the transition to its permanent
tank.


I like the second approach best.

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Old 03-12-2013, 09:49 AM   #9 
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Remember bettas are air breathers and need enough air space in a bag or transport container to come up for air otherwise they will drown.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:52 AM   #10 
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Thank you. I will do that. Does anyone know what is actually wrong with his fins?
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