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Old 03-24-2013, 09:42 PM   #1 
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New betta possible fin rot?

Hi everyone!

My wife and I are new to the forum and although I had a betta in high school I did not do any real research into their proper care. Now that I am not a stupid teenager and know the proper setup I am unsure so far as to what is right and not right with their appearances. My wife stopped into petsmart tonight to pick up a few things and noticed a very sad looking male betta swimming sideways and floating at the top...he also has possible fin rot or is it just his coloring? Any advice input would be awesome!
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:12 PM   #2 
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The black edges on his fins appear to be fin rot. It's probably due to his being in a plastic cup that has too much ammonia. Fin rot is usually fairly easy to treat, as you just need warm, clean water most of the time.....

The floating sideways could be anything from constipation or bloat (since petstores often don't feed quality foods) -- to a sign that he's having problems with his swim bladder or internal organs.

Could you please fill out this form, so that we have more info? Also, how are you acclimating him to his new home? It's important to go slowly when introducing him to his new tank.

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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:14 AM   #3 
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What size is your tank? 1 gallon will be transferring to a 5 or 10
What temperature is your tank? 70
Does your tank have a filter? Not yet
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? No
Is your tank heated? Not yet
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? None

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? Betta flakes
How often do you feed your betta fish? Once so far

Maintenance*
How often do you perform a water change? Every other day for now
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 50%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? Tap conditioner

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? No

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?No
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? Stopped floating and swimming on side
When did you start noticing the symptoms?Since purchase yesterday
Have you started treating your fish? Yes
If so, how? Clean warm water
Does your fish have any history of being ill? Just got him
How old is your fish (approximately)? Few months...?
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:58 AM   #4 
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Ok. 70 degrees is way to cold, especially for a sick fish. You need a heater. Betta flakes are bad and they definatly will not help for constipation. Switch to a high quality betta pellet like new life spectrum or omega one. In a 1 gallon minimum water change is 2 50% and one 100% water change a week. Since he is sick I may even bump it up to 50% every day. You say you have been treating him with clean warm water? Do you just pour warmer water in during a water change?
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:05 AM   #5 
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I just got him last night. Also I am planing on doing 50% everyday or every other day. He is moving to a larger tank this week as I just got him yesterday. The heater I have for him is too large for the 1 gallon tank he would fry. The water he was in prior was disgusting and in the low 60's. I don't know the brand of food he has as I'm not home.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:25 PM   #7 
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The best way to treat fin rot is with warm, clean water.

I agree with Matt's water change schedule. In a one gallon tank, especially with fin rot issues, I would do a minimum of two 50% water changes and one 100% water change a week. If you want to do more frequent 50% changes, that's fine - but I'd still do the occasional 100% just to really get the unfiltered 1 gal tank clean.

Do you already have the larger tank? If you do, and you're currently cycling it, you could heat it, and float his 1 gal tank inside. Some people have suggested clipping the smaller tank to the larger one with something like clothespins.

You didn't say whether you're using the Omega One Betta Buffet pellets or flakes. I prefer the pellets. They're easier to measure out, and they make less of a mess. Since water quality is important in treating fin rot, the less leftover food, the better your water quality.

Is he still swimming sideways and floating? If so, well, a higher temp will help. But you can also add Epsom salt if he's still having swim problems. Let us know if that's still an issue, and we'll give you instructions on how to use it.
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