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Old 03-29-2013, 12:31 AM   #1 
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Exclamation Help please!

I recently (week and a half ago) bought a young male betta, and things seem to be going south rapidly. At first, every time i lifted the lid to feed him in his tank, he would swim to the top and quickly eat all of his food. Now he just sits at the bottom, and does not ever come up to eat. He also has a weird substance growing all over his body? maybe slime? Is he dying or is he just tired and wants to sit at the bottom of my tank?

i have him in a half gallon tank
and have been feeding him flakes that he seems to like, or at least used to.

Can anyone give me some pointers?
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:36 AM   #2 
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A half gallon is too small. It sounds like it may be fungus or body slime.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:40 AM   #3 
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Housing
What size is your tank? 1/2 gallon
What temperature is your tank? 74 degrees (room temp)
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? No
Is your tank heated? No
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? None

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? Flakes
How often do you feed your betta fish? Twice a day

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change? 7 days
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 100%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? None (Distilled water).

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?
No

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? Yes
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? Yes
When did you start noticing the symptoms? Last night
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? No, i am seeking correct treatment
Does your fish have any history of being ill? Not sure, just got him
How old is your fish (approximately)? i have owned him for 1 week
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:44 AM   #4 
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A picture would be good.

For a half gallon, I believe it's recommended at last 3-4 100% cleanings a week, I may be wrong.
You might also want to up the water temperature. Bettas are tropical fish so room temperature isn't good enough for them. Too low and they get sluggish and their immune system weakens.

Also, you should be giving him tap water treated with conditioner. Distilled water has chemicals removed that are necessary for the betta.

Most likely what he has is a fungus that stemmed from poor water quality.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:49 AM   #5 
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So my course of action should be changing the water more often, and buying some chemical for the tap water?

Do i need to buy medicine for his fungi?
I have a desk lamp directly over his tank, do you think this will be sufficient?
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:50 AM   #6 
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Here's some info on body slime infection:
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•Symptoms: Your betta is covered in a white film. It may just be in a few areas and may rise of the skin a bit. Lethargy, clamped, loss of apetite, may have cloudy eyes.
•Treatment: Body Slime infections or Slime Coat Sloughing are due to bacterial infections. Perform daily 100% water changes. Use 1tsp/gal Aq.Salt for up to 10 days. If that does not work then use API Tetracycline, API Fungus Cure, API Triple Sulfa, OR Jungle’s Lifeguard.
Does this sound accurate?

Bettas get sick when their immune systems are compromised in some way. In this case, it could be that he's in too small of a container with too few water changes, his tank is too cold, the flakes aren't a very nutritious diet, and distilled water is depriving him of nutrients.

The first thing you need to do to start treatment is to do more water changes, up the temp to 78 and put him in conditioned tap water rather than distilled water. Make sure to acclimate him slowly.

Edit: a lamp will heat the water inconsistently. He also needs a consistent day/night cycle to sleep since they do not have eyelids. Also, does it look fuzzy at all?
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:51 AM   #7 
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You need a larger tank and a real heater
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:56 AM   #8 
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That information describes him perfectly,
and thank you very much for all the help. He seems pretty sick and i am really trying get him better, ill try the water changes first, along with more heat.

And the water is clear, i just changed it today.
The fish himself seems a bit fuzzy but i think it is because of the slime that is covering him.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:58 AM   #9 
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Housing
What size is your tank? 1/2 gallon
What temperature is your tank? 74 degrees (room temp)
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? No
Is your tank heated? No
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? None

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? Flakes
How often do you feed your betta fish? Twice a day

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? 7 days
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 100%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? None (Distilled water).

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?
No

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? Yes
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? Yes
When did you start noticing the symptoms? Last night
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? No, i am seeking correct treatment
Does your fish have any history of being ill? Not sure, just got him
How old is your fish (approximately)? i have owned him for 1 week
I would reccomend, to improve his condition, getting a 2.5 gallon tank, using treated tap water instead of distilled, getting a filter and heater, using pellets instead of flakes, and to be safe, get a water test kit. With the 1/2 gallon tank, you should be doing water changes every other day. This is just my opinion.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:59 AM   #10 
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Your fish is suffering from ammonia poisoning. His tank is too cold and any kind of flakes are usually not good.
You are not conditioning your water meaning something else old be poisoning him and he could easily die.
You need to upgrade his tank to at the very least a 2.5 you need to heat it to 80*
I would treat him with Epsom salt to clear out and bad things hat may be occurring inside.
You also should purchase a nice bottle of good old Prime water conditioner to remove any harmful chemicals.
Your fish needs better care then what you are providing.
You will NOT be able to throw in some magic medicine and he will feel better, this is a list of things you need to buy at the very least
- 2.5 gal tank (At the least bigger is better)
- heater
- Thermometer (not needed but recommended to monitor water temp)
- Empsom and AQ salt for emergency purposes
- High quality PELLETS such as Omega 1 or New Life Spectrum
- Good water conditioner such as Prime
- Silk plants or other safe decor watch for items with metal of sharp edges you betta will love playing in the plants. I never see one of my fish because he wedges himself between the big leaves of a silk plant :)
Do this and set him up, carefully and slowly acclimatize him to his new tank. Preform a 50% water change every two days only keep him in salt for 10 days! Or else he may develop a tumour. Please feel free to ask any questions and good luck.
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