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Old 05-20-2013, 10:23 PM   #1 
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Breeding setup

I'm currently preparing to breed bettas for the first time so im just preparing everything i need to start breeding. Heres the list of things i will be getting.

-20 gallon tank (to be used as spawning and grow out tank)
-air pump
-sponge filter
-heater
-various live plants, maybe on driftwood
-Styrofoam cup
-Light for the tank
-Betta barracks (for when i need to start separating them)
-IAL (probably wouldnt get here on time, might use black water extract instead)
-BBS hatchery
-microworms
-bloodworms

Just to check, am i missing anything? Any hints and tips when breeding? Also with the 20 gallon tank, will it be sufficient as a grow out tank? Roughly when should i be doing the water changes? I will be getting the spawning/growout tank very soon just to get it established while i wait for the breeding pair to arrive and slowly condition them.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:47 PM   #2 
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Sounds good to me but I'll leave it to our experts to advise you. :)
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:57 PM   #3 
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You may need a smaller tank for spawning. I have heard people say that sometimes in bigger tanks the male or female gets distracted or there is too much space and so they get 'lost'.

Honestly, I would see if you can find some live blackworms. I keep mine in the fridge and they are the best conditioning tool I have found for getting pairs ready to spawn. Bloodworms are alright, but I find live food really stimulates fish.

The size of the grow-out really depends on how many fry you end up with. If you get a massive spawn, you may find you need multiple grow-outs. Otherwise, you may find that a single 20 gallon is all you need.

You can purchase a small packet of IAL online from a store called TechDen. They are more expensive than if you buy them in bulk from overseas, but the shipping is fast and they usually arrive in a couple of days.

http://www.thetechden.com.au/IAL_Ind...ves_s/1878.htm
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:03 PM   #4 
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Sounds fairly good to me. He driftwood is unnecessary but looks nice, though it will drive up prices. If you get a large spawn, 20g may be a little spawn, but that is why I would remove eggs from the nest to get numbers down to your ideal range. Barracks... Well, I don't use them. Expensive set up, difficult to make, and, worst of all, if one gets a disease they all get a disease. Jars would be my recommendation instead. Good luck and just ask if you have any more questions!
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:12 PM   #5 
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Thanks for the help so far! The pair just arrived today, I will look into blackworms and also probably into a spare 7gal tank just as a backup, as for the betta barracks, im not sure about heating individual jars and doing water changes for every jar as i will probably use the same equipment to do the water changes, wont the disease spread that way as well? I figured with the betta barracks, i can at least have good filtration for all of them will a heater that will keep the water warm for all of them. Oh, and what would be the ideal range of fry for a 20 gallon?

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Old 05-21-2013, 07:19 PM   #6 
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Are you making your own barracks or buying pre-made barracks? Pre-made barracks can be costly, and usually only house around a dozen of so fish. Even custom built you would be possibly looking at a couple hundred dollars brand new.

If you get a heap of males in your spawn you may run out of room if you go that option.

Have you thought about a baine marie type system where you have a main tank, half-filled with water and heated, and then the males are put in jars inside of this? That way they are kept warm but separate.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:36 PM   #7 
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Not sure about that last option, i've never heard of it before, its a pre-made barrack from my LFS, yet to see the photos and dimensions but he estimates it at about 100cm X 30cm X 180cm, about 50 cubes for $250 excluding heater, filter media and the cubes themselves.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:53 PM   #8 
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I'm currently preparing to breed bettas for the first time so im just preparing everything i need to start breeding. Heres the list of things i will be getting.

-20 gallon tank (to be used as spawning and grow out tank)
-air pump
-sponge filter
-heater
-various live plants, maybe on driftwood
-Styrofoam cup
-Light for the tank
-Betta barracks (for when i need to start separating them)
-IAL (probably wouldnt get here on time, might use black water extract instead)
-BBS hatchery
-microworms
-bloodworms

Just to check, am i missing anything? Any hints and tips when breeding? Also with the 20 gallon tank, will it be sufficient as a grow out tank? Roughly when should i be doing the water changes? I will be getting the spawning/growout tank very soon just to get it established while i wait for the breeding pair to arrive and slowly condition them.
-20 gallon tank (to be used as spawning and grow out tank)

20g is too big means success rates will be low because the more space for frys to go also means food is harder to find smaller tank means less places for frys to go so food is easier to find i recommend 5g i have always breed in 5g and my success rates are always 95% success

-air pump Perfect

-sponge filter

Only use when frys are 1 month old too many moving waters will stress them out resulting in dead frys

-heater Perfect

-various live plants, maybe on driftwood

Use only 1 live plant so the tank stays as clean as possible less hassle and less cleaning for you. No drift wood because that would just get in the way when your trying to remove the parents

-Styrofoam cup Perfect for nest housing Cut it Length wise

-Light for the tank Perfect

-Betta barracks (for when i need to start separating them) Perfect

-IAL (probably wouldnt get here on time, might use black water extract instead)

-BBS hatchery Perfect

-microworms dont use too much because if you put too much the microworms that are uneaten will die and become bacteria in your tank and when your frys stays at the bottom the bacteria at the bottom will eat away their small little ventral fins and when they grow up they will be ventral fin less

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bloodworms good for when they are 2 and a half month old cut the worms before feeding

trust me on this i been doing this for a long time and all i breed is wild splenden species

hope my info helps

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Old 05-22-2013, 07:19 PM   #9 
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Good luck with your spawn, Nibblez.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:33 PM   #10 
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-microworms [b]dont use too much because if you put too much the microworms that are uneaten will die and become bacteria in your tank and when your frys stays at the bottom the bacteria at the bottom will eat away their small little ventral fins and when they grow up they will be ventral fin less
Nice info bro! Its really useful, I myself didn't know that.

Whoever did a research on that is really smart!
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