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Old 06-01-2013, 06:13 AM   #1 
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Exclamation my fish can hardly move and is having difficulty breathing

So my fish had some mild finrot and my dad got him some german stuff that is apparently for finrot, parasites and other diseases. So yesterday, I changed his water (1 gallon tank, with heater) and added this liquid. He seemed alright all of yesterday, swimming and eating fine. Late at night I noticed him not moving at all, assumed he was just sleeping. This morning I wokeup to find him in the corner of the tank, not moving at all. I put my hand against the tank (he usually darts away when I do that) but this time he didn't move an inch. His fins weren't moving and neither were his gills. Like he was just floating there. I touched him and he jerked a bit to move away but he didn't seem like he had the energy to do so. I changed the water fearing that the liquid that was meant to help him ended up making him worse. He's in clean water now but still really sluggish, having problems breathing, making small bursts to the surface to get air and then just floating there lifeless. I put him in a smaller container with less water so he could get to the surface easier. I'm really worried, he looks like he's gonna die. Any suggestion?
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:29 AM   #2 
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So sorry he's not well. It is very possible that the meds you used were too much for him. I'm assuming you did a 100% water change. I'm sorry I can't offer more but I don't know how you would counteract something like that other than a 100% water change. It'll probably take a day or so for the meds to work out of his system. Do a daily 100% water change for the next few days. You don't typically need meds for fin rot so just keep his water clean, warm & conditioned. I don't know your tank set up or regular water change schedule, you may need to up your regular changes. Keep us posted.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:56 AM   #3 
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His finrot seems to have gotten worse. And he's gotten white fuzz over his eyes. His ventrals have become a sorta white gold at the base. Gosh he's completely verticle at the moment, he makes small bursts to the surface then sinks straight back down again. He's still breathing. I feel terrible watching him suffer like this. I'll take your advice and do 100% changes over the next few days. Hope he gets better
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:29 AM   #4 
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Sorry to hear your fish is sick. Would you be able to post a picture of him? That could help people determine what's wrong with him.

Also, could you tell us more about the medication your Dad got for him? Do you have a name, or ingredients?

And, to give us even more information, if you could fill out the form below, that would be really helpful. Answer what you can, leave anything else blank.

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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 06-01-2013, 10:30 AM   #5 
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ok the name of the meds is 'danio's general aid' on the bottle it says 'new improved german formula. effective cure bacterial disease: finrot, fungus, cotton-wool disease, lesions, ulcers or sores on body' as for ingredients, it doesnt seem to have a list. I probably should have figured that as a bad sign. thats a pic of him, had to hold him up in the tank so he could get some air, hes still alive
Housing
What size is your tank? approx 1 gallon
What temperature is your tank? 80 deg
Does your tank have a filter? no
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? no
Is your tank heated? yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? none

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? sanyu betta gold pellets, fish flakes (occasionally), tubex worms (occasionally)
How often do you feed your betta fish? usually 2 pellets twice daily

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? usually 2 80% water changes twice a week, however I've been changing it every day or every other day to treat his finrot
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? usually 80-90% coz its a small tank, but recently I've been doing 100% water changes coz I thought it was dirt causing his finrot
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? daro - aqua chlor water conditoner

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia: dont know any of these sorry
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? his ventrals firstly got white tips, then 1 ventral had gotten alot shorter than the other, now they are a whitish maybe cream gold color at the base with bits of red. his tail and other fins have gotten black and really tattered on the edges, and he had alot of discoloration on his head
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? last night after administering the treatment for finrot he seemed fine, this morning i awoke to find him floating in his tank. Basically hes lost almost all buoyancy, he floats around almost like a dead leaf, or sinks right after hes made a burst to the surface for air. hes barely moving, only if i touch him does he try to swim away though he has no energy or ability to do so
When did you start noticing the symptoms? his fins have been grey since i got him so i assumed he'd had a mild case of finrot for a while. the buoyancy issues came up practically over night
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? after the finrot treatment i didnt know what else to do so i gave him a 100% water change and have put him in a small cup floating in the tank so he could get to the surface easily
Does your fish have any history of being ill? not sure
How old is your fish (approximately)? not sure
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:36 AM   #6 
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hes on his side, hes going grey under his head now, not even making it to the surface for air, i dont know what to do
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:26 PM   #7 
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Grey on his chin is probably a sign of severe stress, possibly from being handled (I know you needed to do that for the picture, but in his fishy little brain he probably though he was about to be eaten), possibly just from being so sick. He is a beautiful fish, even when he's sick!

Keep up with the water changes. There are several other diseases he may have right now (with the white and gold fuzz) but that medication sounds like it was for another kind of fish (Danio is a kind of fish) and I cannot find any info for that medication on the web.
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:40 PM   #8 
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Do you have any medications? Or do you have Epsom salt (magnesium sulphate), or Aquarium salt, or evaporated sea salt, or non-iodized table salt?

If you tell us what you have available, we can make some recommendations.

The gray under his head may just be because he's not feeling well. They tend to turn paler in coloration when they're under stress or are sick.

Keeping him in the shallow cup is good. It will allow him to reach the surface easier.

In the meantime, if you have Epsom salt:
  1. Add 1 teaspoon of it to a gallon of water. Add your water conditioner. Shake/stir until the Epsom salt is dissolved.
  2. Add a small amount of this to his cup. (About a tablespoon or two. A turkey baster is really good for doing this.)
  3. Wait about 10 min. Then add another tablespoon or two.
  4. If the cup starts to fill up, simply remove a small amount of water.
  5. Do this about 3-4 more times.

I'm not sure the Epsom salt is really what he needs, but it won't hurt him.

I tried to find more info about Danio's General Aid online. I see it mentioned in several places, but can't find the specific ingredients. It doesn't seem like it's anything harmful though.

(@NorthernLights - It looks like "Danio" may be the company name, like API or Mardel. I thought it referred to the company (like API or Mardel or Tetra) that manufacture's it.)

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Old 06-01-2013, 01:44 PM   #9 
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Grey on his chin is probably a sign of severe stress, possibly from being handled (I know you needed to do that for the picture, but in his fishy little brain he probably though he was about to be eaten), possibly just from being so sick. He is a beautiful fish, even when he's sick!

Keep up with the water changes. There are several other diseases he may have right now (with the white and gold fuzz) but that medication sounds like it was for another kind of fish (Danio is a kind of fish) and I cannot find any info for that medication on the web.
Dani's is the brand name of the med, I can find who sells it but haven't found much else yet.
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:53 PM   #10 
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thanks everyone, i just checked on him, and he was dead, cant stop crying. thanks again
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