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Old 06-24-2013, 06:57 AM   #11 
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:07 AM   #12 
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I believe he is indeed copper. When I shine a light on him he's copper colored and in certain lights he's a white silver color or turquoise. I know dragons originally come from crossing species but any info u have on their genetics I would love to hear. I don't mind complicated.im very new to breeding but I love biological sciences and genetics. I'm breeding and researching just for fun now but once I get the hang of it I am going to breed more selectively and eventually enter some shows
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To get full dragon you need the gene in both parents also, that is a copper and a very nice one at that!! I love coppers with this color rather than the bluer and greener types.
Sometimes the scales that are dragon, won't cover the complete fish so its only a partial expression this can happen even in F1, the hardest ones to find are solid colored types but they are also the most attractive on AB they call them full mask that is when the dragon scales cover the face also.
If you can find a copper and red dragon this will produce some very nice fry and then you can cross to yellow to remove most of the red, try not to get a marble which unfortunately is in a lot of coppers.
Also avoid butterflys.
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I don't want solid dragons. I want dragon butterflies
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:31 AM   #15 
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I'm sorry, could you get another picture of the female? I can't see her yellow except for her anal fin. She looks more blue - don't know what to call it. Might be from a lavender line . . . . unsure. . . . but they do have white outer fins - butterfly. Considered as poor BF because the bands are not 50-50.

Galahad in my country would be called a black copper - copper body with black fins. He is almost full masked and probably from a dragon line. But he is not dragon. . . . I could be wrong. Pictures often don't give the actual colors enough credit.
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:48 AM   #17 
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I she lavender? Try to get a female with similar color OR you can cross to yellow, Yellow is a big fixer to get rid of unwanted red but if you want the copper the red must stay.
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For now I'm just experimenting. I have a red female but my blue male beat her up pretty bad so I'm letting her recover fully before I try her again
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Darth: no she is not lavender but she might have came from a lavender cross. Her patterns suggests it. At least her first picture suggests it. Her second picture is confusing - very different color. . . . suggesting a MG cross.
The irid reflection in the first picture suggests she has irid background.
The yellow fins suggests she has MG background
Her pattern suggests lavender background
Perhaps she is a result from MG x Lavender cross . . . . not sure

Black copper x that female will give you a rainbow of colors
copper, multi ccopper, turquoise, MG patterns. Depending on their background, may even produce cambodian pattern, cellophane.

I bred a light green (unknown background) x red washed turquoise (irid, no metallic background ) = platinum, cellophane, cambodian patterns, copper, turquoise, wild type multi, royal blue, steel blue . . . . quite surprising but interesting none the less.
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Yea I can't wait to see what I get! And lilys whole body is yellow the purple looks more like a wash over the yellow that's why she looks so different in the 2 pictures
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