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Old 06-25-2013, 03:58 PM   #11 
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Well I don't mean so much that she's turned grey. She's a bit pale (common when stressed) and she's got this little patch of 2-3 scales that are lighter than all the rest.

We did double the amount of conditioner when we put her in her new tank. So we gave her the amount for 10 gallons instead of the amount for five.

She's just very clamped and goes from being really darty and spazzy to being completely still and clamped. :( Dunno what we should do.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:17 PM   #12 
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Now she's just laying in a divot in the gravel of her iso tank... She only goes up for air... Getting super worried...

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Old 06-25-2013, 05:18 PM   #13 
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My best guess is that this is stress caused by the change in the water chemistry coupled with the stress of a new tank... Darken the tank and see if that helps a bit...
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:25 PM   #14 
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I can only tell you what I would do if I were you. May not be the right thing but here goes. Get a nice clean container anything over 1g. Mix.. 4 drops Prime per gallon. 1 drop Seachem Paraguard per gallon (general med anti septic covers the bases), 1tsp Epson salt per gallon. Make it the right temp. add a small live plant if possible. Change in behaviour means something is up and it is usually the water. Have you noticed how different the water smells since the flood? I sure do! The water quality is way down imo.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:30 PM   #15 
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She does have what appears to be potentially a fungus or ich on a scale on her right side. BEsides that, only water quality could have anything to do with her mood, she's in a small, warm tank. I do not have "seachem paraguard", and I can only buy seachem medication from a store that is literally 3 to 4 hours away from where I live given calgary transit's current state, and thats pisces. I have seachem kanaplex, API general cure, API ich cure, and Maracyn 2. Which of those is similar to paraguard?
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:30 PM   #16 
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Yes I am willing to bet it's due to the flood as well, it's not something you can help except try to make her as comfortable as possible. Keep the tank dark, if you can get some tannins in there that will help too.

Also, how much decoration did you have in both tanks the 5.5 and the 6.6? If you only had a few things in the 6.6, it could also be because she doesn't like open spaces, many Betta's don't because their natural habitat is literally all tall grassy plants, so it's not always natural for them to be out in big open spaces. That could have easily stressed her and just with the change of scenery and then the water chemistry on top of it, it all piled up and just kind of stressed her out to the max, you see?

So for now I think you should just put her back into the 5.5 for now if you've still got it up, with all her old stuff, keep the tank dark for a few days, feed her well and see how it works out.

I would also follow logisticsguy's suggest as well in his last post there
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:35 PM   #17 
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I'd love to but the reason I moved her into a new tank is because I put my other betta in the 5.5. The water is tannin stained... I made a jungle out of the 6.6 gallon, she loves jungly tanks full of plants. The iso can't really be a jungle. Do you think I should leave her in the ISO i've got her in, or take Handsome Jack (my other betta) out of his 5.5 gallon, put him in the ISO, and put her in the 5.5?? The water chemistry in her 6.6 gallon shouldn't have done this to her, it was aged water that was aged before the floods in calgary began to affect the water quality... I just have no idea what did this to her. The water in her 6.6, though the tank has only been used for 3 days, is over 6 days old.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:44 PM   #18 
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Instead of Paraguard you can certainly use the other meds you already have on hand. lilnaugrim would have a better idea which ones or combos than I do. You are right it is so hard to get around the city. If your in a pinch I would drop Paraguard off to you but used correctly the other meds should work just fine. I hope another member can help with better info on the meds.
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lilnaugrim would have a better idea which ones or combos than I do.
Lol I said the same about you XD

Okay looking at what you have vs. paraguard, none of them actually match up of course but for now you can use the Maracyn 2 which is a gram negative antibiotic and it's broad-spectrum which is good. If you can find regular Maracyn you can combine the both of them to make a strong antibiotic similar to paraguard, so that way you have both gram negative and gram positive. Also with the Paraguard or Kanaplex you can mix those with either AQ salt or Epsom. AQ and Kanaplex would work for parasites, fungal and bacteria which might actually be the best route to take right now but I would do half doses of each instead of the full dose since we're not even sure what is wrong with her.

The discoloration of the scales, where are they and is the discoloration extending onto any of the fins at all? Is she still clamping?
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Old 06-25-2013, 07:28 PM   #20 
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The discolouration on the scales is on the dorsal anterior portion of her right side, just behind her head and just below her dorsal fin. It covers maybe 2 scales worth. The discolouration is slight, as Tina is a pale pink, but it stands out with light shone on it. It appears to be white, or lighter than her scales. It has not yet appeared on her fins to my knowledge, and her fins are cherry red. She is still clamping. I have covered her ISO tank in an attempt to reduce external stimuli and allow her to rest.

I am headed out to get some paraguard, figure I'd go safe and get exactly what you recommend rather than mixing and matching.
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