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Old 07-23-2013, 03:24 PM   #1 
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Exclamation please help me diagnose ASAP

Hi this is my first post on here but I have used lots of information found on here to learn about betta care.

My fish Big Blue is sick. His condition was caused by poor water quality and exposure to too much algea.

He was treated for Velvet two weeks ago and showed some improvement. His appetite is fine and lots of his color is back but his head is still dark. His breathing is better and he's greeting me when I walk in the room but I am super concerned about him. He made it through my week vacation and upon my return i realized he needed an antibiotic for secondary infections (red gills, rad patchy spots on him) so I bough Tetracycline yesterday. I gave him one round of the meds last night around 10:30.

After testing his water, I discovered that the ammonia level was high so I put his carbon filter back in to try and reduce it overnight. I know it's not recommended with the antibiotic but I didn't know what else to do to start lowering ammonia levels immediately. I am about to run out and get something to lower the harmful ammonia levels until I can get rid of it entirely.

This morning, I noticed the white ring around his eye. Is he developing op eye?

Is the discoloration on his body a fungal infection?

Should I do a water change?

pH is 7.4
NO3 and NO2 levels are )
ammonia is approx. at 2.0 ppm (which I know is a problem)- it has reduced since last night with the replacement of a carbon filter.

please see photos, what is wrong with him? What should I treat first? I have pictures from a few weeks ago if it will help to view his progress...

someone please help me, i don't even kill bugs and if I let this fish die I am going to feel so so so bad. I feel like he's suffering and I want to help him ASAP.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:41 PM   #2 
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First, the ammonia is way too high. How big is his tank? I /highly/ suggest putting some water conditioner in the water that neutralizes ammonia. Prime water conditioner is a very good conditioner for this.

Warm + clean water will probably help him a lot.

If you do not have a heater, I highly suggest to get one.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:46 PM   #3 
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here's some additional information:

Housing
What size is your tank? 2.5 gal
What temperature is your tank? 80 degrees
Does your tank have a filter? yes
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? i dont think so
Is your tank heated? no it doesn't need it
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? he lives alone

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish? been eating freeze dried worms
How often do you feed your betta fish? 2 times a day, small feedings

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change? no routine, he's just recently become solely my responsibility and clearly i am messing it up badly
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? i use API stress coat

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia: 2.0 ppm
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
pH: 7.4
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed? see photos
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? he's eating, social
When did you start noticing the symptoms? 3 weeks or so ago
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? I used maracide for velvet and yesterday got TC tetracycline, all API products
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)? he's about 2 yrs old
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:48 PM   #4 
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kalari- thank you. I am actively working to reduce the ammonia level. Since his temp is 80 I didn't think I needed a heater.

should I do a full water change? Should I clean his yellow submarine and his silk plants as well?
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:52 PM   #5 
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Do a water change immediately, about 50%. Thats the best way to lower ammonia. And take the carbon back out so the meds can do their job. You may need to do multiple water changes to get the,ammonia down to a tolerable level (.25 or less). How big is the tank and how long has it been set up?
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:53 PM   #6 
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I recommend doing two 50% water changes about two hours apart.

I would also dose twice the recommended dosage on water conditioner. All of your water parameters seem to be perfect besides the ammonia, so that could be causing his fins to curl.

It's an easy fix (: After the two water changes, test the ammonia levels. If they are still to high, preform another 50% water changes with 2x doseage of water conditioner
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jeaninel:

it's 2.5 gallons and i set it up about 3 weeks ago. Previous to that he was in a vase with a plant at the top (this is all my fault)

per water change: ok will do immediately. I am headed to petsmart (all I have to choose from) to get a siphon. Is there anything else you recommend? I was also gonna switch his food to flakes for now until he recovers.
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I would get him some betta pellets. At petsmart they sell Omega Buffet Betta Pellets, and those are wonderful for them.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:57 PM   #9 
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do you happen to know what's causing the discoloration? should I treat him for fungus?
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I'm not sure what it is, but look at this forum http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=90086

It could be the mystery disease, but I'm thinking its from the high ammonia
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