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Old 08-17-2013, 09:07 AM   #11 
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Seems like he's taken a turn for the worse again. I honestly don't know what's causing it or how to help him at this point.

He's laying on his side again and every now and again darts around the tank like a lunatic. My previous betta did this shortly before he died.

Sad.
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:37 AM   #12 
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sorry :(
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:38 AM   #13 
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Bettafix can effect betta's labyrinth organs and really not recommended to use. It also very easy to overdose which will harmful to betta.
Try to use Epsom salt just like LittleBlueFishlets recommended in her post#5(read her instruction) . And i would not use the filter now. Do daily water changes , add Epsom to new water every time you change it. Make sure Epsom without any additives , just pure unscented Epsom salt .
Did he develop any other visual symptoms on the body?
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:47 AM   #14 
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I can't see the photos on my kindle.
1) Does any part of him look bloated or swollen?
2) When was the last time he pooped?
3) Did you add Epsom salt (as I suggested previously)?
4) Does he have any external symptoms (spots, lesions, etc)?

I would use Epsom salt. I would not use peas.

ETA: If you have been using Epsom salt (at a dosage of 1 teaspoon per gal, or higher) and he has no external symptoms, I would try an antiparasitical medication like API General Cure or Tetra Parasite Guard.

Also, did you put him into the same tank as your previous Betta? If so, how soon afterwards was this? And did you clean or disinfect the tank at all?

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Old 08-17-2013, 09:48 AM   #15 
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sorry didn't see any reply , thank you for helping
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:56 AM   #16 
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@Sunlight - you should have left your post. It was a good reply!
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Old 08-17-2013, 12:10 PM   #17 
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I can't see the photos on my kindle.
1) Does any part of him look bloated or swollen?
2) When was the last time he pooped?
3) Did you add Epsom salt (as I suggested previously)?
4) Does he have any external symptoms (spots, lesions, etc)?

I would use Epsom salt. I would not use peas.

ETA: If you have been using Epsom salt (at a dosage of 1 teaspoon per gal, or higher) and he has no external symptoms, I would try an antiparasitical medication like API General Cure or Tetra Parasite Guard.

Also, did you put him into the same tank as your previous Betta? If so, how soon afterwards was this? And did you clean or disinfect the tank at all?
My previous betta died 1 1/2 years ago. I've had this betta for a little over 1 year.

I have not noticed anything visiblly wrong with his body.

He pooped probably on Thursday. I didn't feed him much yesterday. I just gave him 2 pellets and he perked up to eat them.

I didn't use the epsom salt. He appeared to be doing better at the time. I will try it though. Also, his filter is off and has been for a few days and I lowered his water level again, too.

My only concern is stressing him out too much with a 100% water change. That can't be good in his state, right?
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:47 PM   #18 
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Epsom salt has laxative effect.
If you will acclimate him right way he will be fine with daily water changes. Or you can alternate daily water changes 50% and 100%. And redose new water with every change.
And if you can go to the pet store and buy frozen daphnia. People saying it good for the constipation and it also enriched in protein and will help to strengthen his immune system. Epsom salt has laxative effect .

Here is a few ways to acclimate your betta

1. can have betta in the changing cup with about 15% of the water and keep adding small amount of the new water about every 5 min for about 5-6 times -this way you he will get used to the temperature:)

2. Note the temperature of the water.

Using a plastic cup, scoop him, along with some of his water, into the cup.
Clean out the tank. Refill with water at the SAME temp. Be sure to add the correct amount of water conditioner.
Float his cup in the tank for about 15 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
Add a SMALL amount of NEW water to the cup. (Several tablespoons, or about 1.5 ounces.)
Let his cup float for about 10 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
If the cup starts to fill too much, remove a SMALL amount of water from the cup. Discard it.
Repeat steps 5-7, until about an hour has passed. (If he sits longer because you're studying, that's OK.)
Gently release him into the tank.

3. To do a water change, use a little cup like a plastic solo cup - this cup must be only for him and have never been used with soap or other chems. Scoop him up in this cup (keep him in the cup about 1/4 full of water - it doesn't need to be much because he won't be in it for long) and leave him in the cup while you change his water. To do the 50% use a turkey baster - dedicated only to him that has never seen soap or chems - and drag it through the gravel and try to suck as much of the poop out as possible, in addition to 50% of the water. Use a thermometer under the running tap to get it to be the same temp as the water that is normally in his tank. When the thermometer says the flowing tap is the right temp, fill back up his tank. At this point, add the conditioner (dose for how much water you change - if you change half the water you add half gallon worth of conditioner, If you do a 100% water change dose for the full gallon change). Float his plastic cup with him in it in the new water. Slowly add a couple tablespoons of the new water into his cup every 10 minutes for at least an hour. Finally, dump him in gently but try to get as little of the old cup water back into the tank as possible. When you do the weekly 100% you will do mostly the same thing except empty his tank fully and rinse everything in it very well under warm water but never use soaps or chemicals. Once it's fully cleaned/rinsed you can refill it and repeat the cup/acclimate phase.

4. When I change the water I put him in the cup I got him in then I take everything out of the tank, rinse everything with warm tap water. Then I put everything back in the tank, fill it with dechlorinated new water, and then turn the heater on. When the tank water is the same as the cup water , then take the dirty cup water out and a little at a time and put clean tank water in the cup. After that I put the cup in the tank and he swims out.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:18 AM   #19 
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He's not doing any better. Worse perhaps.

He just lays at the bottom. Today he is having trouble "catching" his food in his mouth to the point where he just gives up.

I feel so bad. I don't know what else to do for him (other than medicate him, I suppose).
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:41 PM   #20 
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Update - still need help - he seems to be suffering more than ever.



This is Mo Hawkins from a few minutes ago.

He's in Epsom salt water and that seems to have made things worse. I took out some water to make it easier for him to get to the surface. His breathing is very labored.

I don't know what else to do. We've been battling his problems for a month now. I would like to ease his pain and suffering but I'm at a loss now. Any other ideas?
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