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Old 08-13-2013, 04:13 PM   #1 
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Veiltail breeders

Hi, I'm new. I don't know if this is the right forum, but is seems the most accurate.

Is there anyone (Especially in the USA) who breeds/sells dragonscale veiltails? I would love to find a male, especially in black!

On a more topic related note, relative to other animals, how difficult is it to breed bettas? I breed chickens for show, and have a weakness for anything that can be described with 'complex genetics'. Bettas are so pretty, it's hard not to want to get involved! I'll admit though, some of the 'how to breed' threads look daunting compared to my chicken hobby.

But it would be really nice to do something other then knit all winter.
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Old 08-13-2013, 04:49 PM   #2 
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HI, welcome to the forum. Betta keeping/breeding is addictive, so beware :)

Getting them to spawn is easy. Raising the fry to adult is the real challenge. Since it involves investment and dedication (tank, supplies, and energy), I wouldn't suggest it for mere experience unless you already have the tanks. It is rewarding though to watch them grow and color up to adulthood.

You don't really need to know about their genetics if you don't cross breed different fin types nor work with complex colors. But it is always a good idea to know of their genetic background since it will influence the outcome (fin and color) of offspring. Read the stickies (genetic and form breeding) and ask as many questions as you can think of. We are all here to help.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:07 PM   #3 
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It's not so much "difficult", process wise, as sometimes they just refuse to breed and raising the fry takes a lot of work with the water changes and frequent feedings and what not.
Genetics wise, there is LOT of free information out there and people are always happy to answer questions.

The only dragon vailtail I know of for sale is in Australia and they won'r ship out side Australia.

That could be something for you to work on, youself, though. You can buy a black dragon HMPK like this:
or HM.
and, say, a blue female(most 'female betta' you find at petstores are vailtails unless stated otherwise).

you should get some partial dragons(you may get lucky and some may have full coverage) and then breed the best two fry together.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:36 PM   #4 
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Thanks for the welcome guys!

Doubt I'll be breeding bettas anytime soon, but I might just spend some time collecting things I would need.

Are there any North American breeders who work with high quality veiltails? Even pet store stock are surprisingly hard to find where I am. It seems all the LFS get their fish from the same place, all red/blue crowntails. My veiltail male is from a few states away- Pity purchase on a family trip.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:40 PM   #5 
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I only know 2 Dragon Scale Veiltails and one belongs to Huffle Puffle, and I own one.
Atm, I'm not up to breeding, and I don't think Huffle Puffle is a breeder, but you could always ask her!

Best of luck, hope you find the VT you've been searching for.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:04 PM   #6 
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But it would be really nice to do something other then knit all winter.
theres more to life than yarn crafting??

btw, are you on Ravelry? =D
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There has to be SOME photos of dragonscale veiltails right?
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He hasn't finished marbling yet, and his Dragonscales aren't AS prominent, but he's a DSVT.







And here's Huffle Puffles' DSVT.

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Old 08-14-2013, 08:12 PM   #9 
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theres more to life than yarn crafting??

btw, are you on Ravelry? =D
I hadn't heard of it, looks neat!

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He hasn't finished marbling yet, and his Dragonscales aren't AS prominent, but he's a DSVT.

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/...psd9d3874e.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/...psdf6127d7.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/...psd01e82af.jpg

And here's Huffle Puffles' DSVT.
Beautiful fish, thanks for sharing. Who would've thought they'd be so hard to find?
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^ I know what you mean. Can't even find any on google.
When I first bought him, we had no clue he was a DS. So I guess
I lucked out xD
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