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Old 08-21-2013, 02:08 PM   #1 
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Betta Fry With Tails in Air

Some of the fry are lying on the ground with their tails pointed straight up... I thought one was dead so I poked it with a stick and moved a little, but not very much. (kinda sluggishly?) Somehow I don't think this is normal? Could I have overfed? They are about a week old and up to this point they have been feeding on the micro-organisms from the java moss and marimo moss ball. I fed them some walter and micro worms earlier.
The ammonia is somewhere between 0 and .25ppm; however, it seems to look more 0 than .25ppm; it's hard to tell lol.

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Old 08-21-2013, 02:37 PM   #2 
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My first thought with those symptoms...nutrition deficit...what else have you been feeding and how much/often. Water temp, how much and how often on the water changes, tank size-what spawning method did you use and how is the tank setup what are you using to retain heat/humidity over the water.

If it is nutrition related---sometimes not much you can do.....
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:04 PM   #3 
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They are a week old in a 2 gallon tank, that they parents spawned in with the Thai method. I was going to move them into a 10 gallon tank when they were around 2 weeks old. They have just been eating infusoria and walter/bananana/microworms. I'm looking into getting brine shrimp eggs, but I can't seem to find any in the local stores. Temperatures at 82 degrees and I have plastic wrap over the top of the tank. I used a turkey baster to suck up some debris, and have been floating a cup in the water and adding in some water with a turkey baster. I haven't really started on heavy duty water changes yet since they are barely a week old. X]

Also, this seems very sudden. They were fine yesterday night and this morning.

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Old 08-21-2013, 03:07 PM   #4 
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DoctorWhoLuver, you should get one of these! It is a fantastic deal. The amount of BBS eggs you get is worth more than what you pay just for the hatchery! I am really pleased with mine, and it doesn't even need an air pump to run.

http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/c21...Dish-p183.html
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:10 PM   #5 
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Thanks for the suggestions:) That looks really nice, I'm just a bit worried that it would arrive too late, so that's why I was looking into the local stores x]
But I might just have to order one:)
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:14 PM   #6 
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Maybe you should feed boiled egg yolk mixed with tank water till you get BBS. :-/ Do you happen to have Amazon Prime? You could probably get overnight BBS for not very much extra, if so.
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I do have Prime, that sounds like a good idea. I thought about feeding the boiled egg yolk, but I was afraid that it would pollute the water and that the worms might have been better
Do you think it would be too early move them into a bigger tank?
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:38 PM   #8 
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Yeah, it will pollute the water....

Is this the same pair that you've bred quite a bit over the last month or so? If you're feeding the right foods, I wonder if the parents are getting enough conditioning between breeding to really produce quality eggs. I honestly don't know, as I don't have the experience, but it might be something to consider and ask about.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:48 PM   #9 
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With nutrition related issue in delicate young fry-Death can happen in seconds and nothing you can do. Prevention is the best method-Sadly in a 2gal tank-that small of volume would only have enough natural food colonized for maybe 20 or so fry for 1-2 days at most.

Mass death/die off is not uncommon due to poor nutrition-it happens fast.

You could try harvesting some natural microorganism, however, if the fry are too weak to eat it won't do much good-with that said you still might have a few fry viable.

If you have a brine shrimp net-use this and a small cup of dechlorinated water-go outside and look for standing water-scoop some water-invert the net into the container of water and keep hunting-you may or may not be able to see much more than off color water caused by microorganisms. Once collected-poor this water through the brine shrimp net-then invert the net into the fry tank. Use your judgement on what you collect-if you can see it with the naked eye it might be too big for the fry to eat. Anything too big toss in the adult Bettas tanks.

Good luck...
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They were bred three times :( This is the third time. They were first bred back towards the end/beginning of June/July. This time, I conditioned them for about 2.5 to 3 weeks and they were fed frozen daphnia/brine shrimp and live mosquito larvae.
I should have known that food from the plants wouldn't last that long. I just read somewhere that the fry could last up to a week on infusoria and it didn't click in until today that I may not have had enough infusoria. I've collected all the fry that are not looking so well into a cup and just put in some walter worms. Hopefully, they will still have some energy left to eat :( The death toll has now reason to 4:(
Thank you for the help.
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