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Old 07-14-2009, 10:28 PM   #1 
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Sick,listless betta

Please help! My Betta is dying. He sits at the bottom of his tank and hasn't eaten for over a week. He's in a 5 gallon tank, temp at 78, checked the ph (7.5), cleaned the tank just recently (2 days ago). I thought maybe I was overfeeding so did a full water change but normally only do once per week at 40%. I've tried the salt bath. I've switched up his food (I give him Nutrafin Basix and have tried Hikari Bio gold. I also bought Ultra colour floating food but haven't tried it yet as he won't eat anything now. It's a freshwater tank with only plastic plants, natural indirect light, and an Excel Junior filter. I got him at walmart 6 months ago. Up until a few weeks ago he was fine then I noticed he barely swam and when he did his back half kind of dragged low and the way he swam was jerky and irregular. Now he's not moving at all but his gills are still moving. There are no other outward signs of disease. Could it be Dropsey? Please help, I feel awful for him suffering like this.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:05 AM   #2 
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Please help! He's getting much worse. His body has gotten much darker and on the bottom of his body it's a silver colour (He's always been peacock blue all over), his fins look very bad and he's starting to turn over to his side. He never opens his mouth and he's super skinny. I never see him poo. In fact I've never noticed that the whole time I've had him. He doesn't leave the bottom of the tank ever anymore. I'm afraid he wont last the day if he doesn't get help soon.
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:19 AM   #3 
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I'm sos orry about your betta. I really don't know what could be wrong except he might have some kind of infection. He may be too far gone but you could try tetracycline or Maracyn. What size tank is he in?
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:17 AM   #4 
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5 gallon, it says in the first paragraph. Do you think it might be Swim bladder disorder? If he had dropsy he would look bloated and his scales will be poked out like a pine cone. Have you noticed swolleness in the belly area? If so it may be swim bladder disorder... He might be able to recover on his own IF it is sbd. Maybe this will help... im not sure if it is SBD but you can look at this anyway. (got this from bettatalk.com)


DISEASE: SWIM BLADDER DISORDER uGENERAL INFO: This is also a common betta problem. It is not contagious. It comes from overfeeding. It is especially common in very young bettas (30 to 60 days old) and can affect some Double Tail bettas when overfed or stressed..
uSYMPTOMS: Bettas with a swim bladder disorder will have difficulty swimming, because their swim bladder (located alongside the spine between the belly and the tail) is either too short (causing them to not be able to swim horizontally) or it is swollen (causing them to float on one side). Double Tail bettas, because they have a shorter body, are especially prone to the “floaters” problem. In the case of a short swim bladder, the bettas will not be able to maneuver and swimming becomes so difficult, they prefer to just lay at the bottom, sliding on their bellies, which is why they are called “belly sliders”. And they do look like a pathetic bunch, at that point. :)
uTREATMENT: Bettas may recover on their own, but since overfeeding induces swimbladder disorders in most cases, the first thing to do is feed a lot less. Brine shrimp and too much of it is the biggest culprit, so if your bettas are bellysliding, stop the brine shrimp for a while and thereafter learn to have a more balanced diet, alternating brine shrimp with microworms or worms (depending on how old your bettas are). Do not kill a betta with a swimbladder disorder. It may recover on its own at any time, and is not suffering. Further more, the ailment is NOT contagious. To help the fish if it cannot eat, lower the water level. Adding some BettaZing to the water for a few weeks may not hurt either ;).
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Old 07-15-2009, 11:20 AM   #5 
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Or if he looks like hes getting thinner it could be internal parasites. But thats only if you feed live food. Have you ever fed live food to him before? or... maybe its just from him not eating, haha.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:15 PM   #6 
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Thanks, bettasquirt. I missed the tank size for some reason. Didn't pay close enough attention, I guess. lol
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:51 PM   #7 
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Lol, its okay.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:26 PM   #8 
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Hi everyone. Thanks so much for your posts! I've never given him live food before so maybe it's not a parasite issue. I really do think I was overfeeding (not realizing it) so it could be swim bladder disorder. I'm definitely going to take your advise and lower the water level since he cant swim up to get air. I moved him to a bowl because I thought it might make him feel more secure. I'm going to try the BettaZing. Thanks for the suggestion Bettasquirt. Do you think I should move him back to the tank with the heater? Or would that just stress him out more? You guys have given me hope. The pet stores I called really didn't seem to care much. Thank you so much. I'll keep you posted.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:32 PM   #9 
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Hmm. I just noticed it says that his belly would be bloated if he has swim bladder disorder. He's so skinny, it's truly sad. Could it still be SBD? Mick Schtoppel is the short body variety (double tail).
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Old 07-16-2009, 07:41 PM   #10 
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I think that you should keep him in the bowl, so that he can get air.

Hmm... Do you think he will be depressed? The symtoms are:
Slightly clamped fins, lay at the bottom of the surface, not eat, barely swim around, and never make bubble nests
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