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Old 08-02-2009, 06:20 PM   #1 
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Angry Dangit, Tian-Tian!!

So I'm a usual observer of my boys... I noticed over the past few days that Tian-Tian was sulking in his castle a lot and he was sitting very lazily on the bottom of his tank. Water changes didn't seem to help at all. I even added my last bit of methylene blue (which worked in the past) and even THAT didn't work. His water temp has stayed constant, so I've ruled that out.

I finally took a closer look today. What I originally thought was a peeling scale turned out to be..... yup, ICH. AGAIN. It's all over his head. It's not really major (since I've caught it early once again), but DANG that stuff can spread quickly!

I'm convinced acne is to a teenager as ich is to Tian-Tian. Freakin' fish.

Also, I noticed a funky, discolored spot on his pectoral fin that I don't want to see turn into finrot. So I've put some Jungle Fungus Clear into his tank. Already he seems to have brightened up considerably and is moving about again, almost back to normal. Except his water is a different shade from Taco's tank due to the Jungle.

Hopefully Tian-Tian will pull through like he always does. His water temp is 79 degrees F. I took a baster and sucked out excess gunk off the bottom of his tank (which seems to be appearing overnight, since I JUST gave him a 100% water change just Saturday afternoon! What gives??).

Anything else I can do for him?
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:36 PM   #2 
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It sounds like you are doing everything you can, clean water and meds. I'm glad he's almost back to normal.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:54 PM   #3 
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I hope he's okay.

Here's what I just did:

After letting the Jungle sit in his tank since 6:10pm (it's 7:11 now), I did 100% water change... and turned the whole tank into a minimalist's dream:

I took out all of the marbles, except for a few pieces that I washed thoroughly with hot water. I washed his castle and his plastic grass plant (no soap, folks!). I then put the castle in the center, using the plant as a sort of "flora" decor, and left the bottom of the tank bare with nothing else except for my few marbles and rocks.

Why: I remembered reading somewhere on the web (probably here) that ich reproduces in GRAVEL. So, I figured the re-infections were happening because of the marbles. So by leaving the bottom mostly bare, I believe I might break the cycle and bring Tian-Tians tank to normal. Also, aquarium salt= WIN.

Also, after doing the change, I noticed his water felt cooler to the touch. I'm gonna check the temp on that sucker in a bit and decide if I'm gonna put the heater back in.

Come on, Tian-Tian!!
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:07 PM   #4 
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Okay, now Tian-Tian's just SITTING in his castle, and even leaning over to one side! I'm really worried! I know my boy is quite an old fellow... but is it his time? He's been eating otherwise normally. Both he and Taco have the same rations of regular feedings and treats... but Taco is fine, so I know it's not Tian-Tian's diet.

Ah, Tian-Tian is either sitting at the bottom of his tank or propped near the surface in his plant.

All right... he's swimming a bit now... and back to his plant. And sitting. He's not even flinching.
Oh man, I am so freaking out; I don't know what else to do for him. The water temp's back to normal, so what do I do now? I don't see the ich on him; maybe the aquarium salt helped with that, at least?
What else can I do?
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:18 PM   #5 
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HOLY TAP-DANCING MOSES ON BUTTERED TOAST.

So I shone a light on my boy and it turns out the ich spread much further than I initially thought. It's all over his body. Hasn't touched his fins, yet... let's hope it doesn't get that far.

Have I done all I can for him? He's still sitting and acting very listless.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #6 
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Try some Jungle Ick Guard or Maracide. Those are meds for ick.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:17 PM   #7 
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Oh ick can live on marbles?? I did take them outta Randys tank when I started to treat him though. They have been out for awhile,so it should be gone I hope. I hope Tian-Tian gets better. Ick is very nasty.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:34 PM   #8 
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I'm a bit short on cash at the moment, but thanks for the suggestion, dramaqueen.

Yep, ich seems to reproduce in gravel, which is why it can be so hard to get out of a tank. I only just discovered this; I'm slow, but brilliant. :D

In other news, Tian-Tian has made a few attempts to swim around his tank and act normal, but then he goes right back to resting. It's almost like watching an old man go for a light jog, then head straight for a nap when he's done. Poor thing.

I guess I'll just have to see how he's doing in the morning. Should I fast him? And if so, how long?
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Maybe a couple days. Thats what Randy did. :(
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I hope Tian Tian gets better!
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