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Old 09-18-2013, 02:02 PM   #1 
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Question Living animal filters for my 10 gal betta fish tank?

Hi guys.

I have a male betta fish in a 10 gallon tank. I have 1 pond snail that I'm trying to get reproducing very quickly on purpose. The tank is filled with algae and I am welcoming a small "invasion" of these pond snails. When they're everywhere, I will release my assassin snails to keep them under control.

I have a sword plant that's just barely surviving because I had been using my bettas fish top (which had a great light) on my 10 gallon tank for my 3 hermit crabs. I had the tank in front of my bedroom window to help with photosynthesis. It didn't work. The plant began to die and lost a huge amount of foliage. I got a top for my hermit crabs now so the the top that has the light is back on my fish tank. I will get another plant (actually many) to help control the co2 in the tank and then I'll remove the fake plants completely.

Unfortunately, when I changed the substrate from the gravel I had to sand, I removed the pond snails so when I put the top back on,about 2-3 weeks later, I have an explosion of algae. It's even in my filter. I am unfortunately down to 1 pond snail who seems VERY happy now that I released him back into the tank. So, he's going crazy over the algae.

Now I'm waiting for him to start to take over that way I can release my assassins into the tank to keep that under control.

Now I'm left with 1 thing. All the fecal matter and other waste products left behind by a growing population.
I was going to add a clam or two to my tank but then I've read that they need a cool fast moving stream of water to survive and bettas can't survive in that. So, clams are out of the picture. Is there anything I can add to make the aquarium self sufficient?

I'm trying to make it so I don't have to change the water... ever. 10 gallons is too much to try to change every month. I think this is possible because it happens naturally. No one has to manually change the water in a lake, because the animals and plants that are in there take care of it all. I want to try to imitate this as best as possible.

I think betta fish behavior is unique depending on the betta fish, so let me give you an idea of my betta fishes attitude.

I heard that African Dwarf frogs are safe to add to a betta fish tank and they would get along. So I put 3 of them in with Freddy and he murdered every single one of them. So, I'm looking for something he is not going to kill. Is there such a thing that I can look for?
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:43 PM   #2 
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Just to add one thing, even if I have to upgrade to a bigger tank to make this possible, I'll do it anyway. I just want to make it so the only thing I have to do ever is feed the fish.
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Old 09-18-2013, 02:43 PM   #3 
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You have to change the water even if the tank has plants in it just not as often and your betta has shown he is too aggressive to be housed with anything.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:00 PM   #4 
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Shrimp has an exoskeleton. My snails have shells and they are still alive. African dwarf frogs don't have an exoskeleton which I think is why he was able to kill them. Is shrimp okay? I hear they keep ammonia down naturally.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:04 PM   #5 
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Betta's eat ghost shrimp. I know that from experience when I saw one eating a tiny one. If you really want a tank mate for him I suggest you get the assassin snail, then get a mystery snail
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:09 PM   #6 
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Water doesn't have to be changed in lakes and rivers because the ratio of fish to gallons of water is so small that the water never gets as bad as in a tank where the ratio is of fish to water is so great.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:54 PM   #7 
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I can't see why you would get a fish tank and not ever want to do a water change. Particularly in a 10 gallon tank where you would most likely only have to expend about ten to fifteen minutes once a week on maintenance.

Shrimp don't keep ammonia down. I don't know where you heard that.

Are you familiar with the practice of cycling a tank? If not I suggest doing some reading up on it.

It is possible to have a tank where minimal water changes are done, but you do not sound like you have the experience necessary to undertake something like that.
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Old 09-18-2013, 04:02 PM   #8 
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Water changes accomplish one thing in a heavily planted self-sufficient tank - they lower the build up and remove /add the nutrients and things back into and out of the tank. A google search would better explain it but in a 10 gallon tank, it's simply not possible to never, ever do water changes and still have healthy fish. I'd guess it would take a huge 500 gallon or larger pond/tank to get the no water change ever accomplished with a self-sustaining tank.
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Old 09-18-2013, 04:38 PM   #9 
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The place I heard it from was answers.yahoo.com. The one who's been selected as best answer said that Shrimp prevents ammonia buildup because the shrimp eats any gunk that causes it before it has a chance to send out ammonia.

This is the thread:
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...9043619AAXF9q2
it's listed as 3.

And it was chosen by voters.
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Old 09-18-2013, 04:41 PM   #10 
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Only an uneducated fish owner would believe that
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