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Old 09-19-2013, 10:29 PM   #1 
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...Oak leaves?

So the water where I live is on the hard side; not so much that it's unhealthy for fish, but I have a crowntail with some curly fins and I heard that Indian almond leaves might help. Well, those seem a tad expensive to ship, and I read somewhere that oak leaves will work the same way.
I live in Idaho and we don't have a ton of oak trees, but I live on my college campus and I think I found one. Do these look right and do you think it's safe to try? :P


I don't want to do anything that might be harmful /:

Also do the leaves have to be dried out first? ial or any kind
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:35 PM   #2 
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Yep dry the leaves. Do you have any idea if the campus groundskeepers use pesticides? That would be the main concern. Also I think it's white oak that is toxic? All other types are fine.
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Thank you!
I don't think they do, but I will make sure. How can you tell if it's a white oak? (..is it white? Sorry if that's a stupid question haha) :)
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It might be black oak that's the toxic kind.
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It might be black oak that's the toxic kind.

Yeah I think you're right. I believe it only grows in specific parts of the country. Try googling about the types of oak trees common in your state. If black oak is not on the list, you're good to go. If it is on the list, compare pics of black oaks to the trees you got the leaves from.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:16 AM   #6 
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Black Oaks only grow in Eastern US about as far south as the FL line and as far north as the Great Lakes

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I think there's a difference between drying them and having them dry on the tree then fall. Trees absorb a ton of stuff out of their leaves as they dry, when a fresh leaf falls it has a different chemical composition.
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I think there's a difference between drying them and having them dry on the tree then fall. Trees absorb a ton of stuff out of their leaves as they dry, when a fresh leaf falls it has a different chemical composition.
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Which is the best to use, then? Fresh leaves that fall, or dried ones that fall, or just grab them off the tree?
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I'm watching this too, I have lots of oak trees.
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Nature dried oaks leaves that fall from the tree is what you want to look for. Never use green leaves, get the ones that have dried and fallen that are free of any pesticides that might have been sprayed around the area where you find them.
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