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Old 09-24-2013, 05:49 PM   #1 
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What might I get?

I am going to breed a female green/blue iridescent HM with a purple/silver/white VT male. Any clue what I might get?
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:17 PM   #2 
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Irid with varying metallic and red wash. Irid because you are breeding to an irid. Irid is in the top layer so it will be dominant color. Metallic because for the parent to be silver there is some element of metallic. Metallic is also in the top layer so it should show up. Red wash because one parent has purple which is a blend of red and blue therefore you know the fry will carry red. You didn't state if the VT was marble or not. VT tails because VT is dominant.

I have a spawn of these growing out right now so as soon as they color up I'll post pics for you. I can tell you that at 3 weeks I can shine a flashlight on them and see turquoise, blue and silver so far. My female was metallic turquoise and my male was silver with a purple and white butterfly band. My goal was metallic irid butterflies that were DT geno eventually aiming for metallic blue butterflies. I'm not thrilled with the red in there so we'll have to see how that goes. If it comes in more purple or maroon it will be OK. I have a fleet of yellows I can cross to to remove the red if it becomes an issue. They should be masked like the male. Hopefully.
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Ok, thanks. The male is not a marble as far as I know. So, will I get just VTs?
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Yup. In the F1 anyways.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:23 PM   #5 
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F1?
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:29 PM   #6 
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F1 is the offspring of your pair. F2 would be if you bred sibling fry. F1 cross is breeding one of the offspring back to the parent fish. It is how you build higher probability in a Punnett square. You can better determine what your parent fish will produce if you do a Punnett square. The higher the probability for certain traits in a Punnett square the more or better chances your offspring will be what your are trying for.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:58 PM   #7 
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So, I may get some HM bettas in F2?
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:36 PM   #8 
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No,you'd get more VT with a slightly wider spread, on your way to getting a delta.
it would take many generations to get back to a HM spread, let alone a quality one.

even HM x HM will give you a mix of super deltas and HM.

If you want HM fry, breed two halfmoons.
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:40 PM   #9 
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Yea, OK. What about a CT female with a VT male? Still VTs?
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:46 PM   #10 
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VT's with varying web reduction/combtails. They tend to look messy.

If you're going the CT female route why not look for one with a decent spread and breed to a ct male.
or a HM male, a few people are working on halfsuns I think, so the breeding pool for trading fry should be decent.
Or HMPK, and breed toward CTPK (short tails showing back up in f2-f3)?

Or you can always just work on betting the VT. :) People still love them, but they need better colors to grab peoples attention.

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