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Old 10-17-2013, 11:35 AM   #31 
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I looked at a few hagens in Canada and it said MAX water line. Upon contacting hagen they agree it can be submerged.

It sure makes it confusing when some say MIN and some say MAX

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Old 10-17-2013, 12:24 PM   #32 
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A MAX waterline would be appropriate for a non-submersible heater. The only Hagens Ive seen are submersible. It make sense that they would have MIN water lines.

I'm not sure you can easily buy a non-submersible these days....or why anybody would want one.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:51 PM   #33 
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Why would there be a legal only reason? Im confused...
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:00 PM   #34 
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Ask a lawyer...LoL hehe They can see the sky falling in every breeze.

Maybe they think some idiot would install it trapping the wire underneath and then leave it on while removing all the water. That's the kind of paranoid a good liability attorney has to be.

They don't care that it doesn't work as well that way.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:10 PM   #35 
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Exactly who would want want that cannot be submerged. That's the reason I walked away after looking at a few of hagens
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:36 PM   #36 
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All I know about is the Hagen elite series. I bought a bunch of 25W when they were on sale at Amazon. They're submersible. I didn't even know they made any other kind of adjustable heater.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:40 PM   #37 
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Yep
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:35 AM   #38 
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Yeah, I tried to hold it so that it would be as far from the bottom as it could be, but also still be about where the minimum water level line would be too. It's just a taller heater. If it were able to be installed sideways it would be perfect!

For Gallifrey - measurements!
6.5 inches, as advertised
http://i.imgur.com/bIXmuDP.jpg

Less than 1/2 inch thick:
http://i.imgur.com/m0b9b3V.jpg

About 2 inches wide:
http://i.imgur.com/3DIQRNo.jpg
Thanks so much! It's a bit smaller than my current heater (length-wise), which is even better. I like how it isn't too thick either. Definitely going to be getting that heater next month. ^______^
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Old 10-19-2013, 12:28 PM   #39 
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No problem!

I want to update on my 2nd heater that I got. It's a 50W and I put it in my 5 gallon with the babies. It works just as consistently as the 25W one, never varies a single degree in temperature. Even though it's only 64F in my house right now I can go to bed and wake up and it will be the exact same temperature - and it gets cold in here at night now! Only issue is, it's off by exactly 3 degrees. It's probably just this particular unit I have as I really believe that they have excellent quality products. I plan on keeping it and using it for as long as I can - it has a 3 year warranty so as long as it keeps holding the temperature consistent, I'll keep it in use.

Also, I still haven't heard anything back from my inquiry to them about why they can't be installed sideways. I'll definitely post again when I do :)
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Thanks for the update! :)
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