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Old 10-30-2009, 12:37 AM   #1 
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culling is a controversial subject that must be addressed. the amount of amateur breeders is on the rise. have any of you given it a serious thought? many of you will be offended with what i have to say so read at your own discretion. im here to toss in my two cents; not to debate the ethical issues.

for those that dont know, culling is the act of selective killing. why would anyone commit such a heinous act? everyone will have their own reasons.

unfit and runts
nature's survival of the fittest will usually take these out early on. against great odds, some will miraculously make it to adolescents. i have had a few 1.5 month old that look smaller than their siblings when they were a week old. they were very little and show almost no developments.

with every batch, there is bound to be some deformities. bent spines is probably the most common and visible issue. some may argue that it could potentially have a good quality of life.

regulating stock size
if the batch is large, you may not want to spend the time and resource to care for the ones that are just average. who really wants a large number of fish that looks the same? other times, some may want to kill off their mature fish that are past their prime to make room for the youngs.

if you do decide to cull, please do it in a humane manner approved by AVMA Guidelines for Fish Euthanasia. i will not share which methods i have used.
i have taken a couple of pictures to illustrate what some of my culls look like.

the spine is severely crooked

the top half of the caudal fin does not span open

my final two cents on culling: if you or someone else will not find enjoyment in keeping a particular fish, why do it?
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:51 AM   #2 
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Yes, culling IS a very contraversial subject so I just want to ask everyone to please be respectful of each other's opinion, even if you don't agree with it.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:30 AM   #3 
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Hmm, for ME, I'd only cull if the fry has no chance at having a comfortable life. I just don't have the heart to do it otherwise.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:51 AM   #4 
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I agree with Kim. With any animal in general, if I knew that they would be in pain the rest of their lives or uncomfortable enough to where they'd suffer through life than I would put them down humanly. It would break my heart doing so, but if it would be best for the animal, I would do it.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:40 AM   #5 
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I can agree with you Andakin 100% even though we had our disagreement earlier on. The only thing I hate is when people want to breed or incist to breed when they are uncapable of keeping the babies. (Don't have necessary supplies, no enough research ect.) And they choose to spawn their bettas whose fry will probably die in the end.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:20 AM   #6 
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I've never thought about it before because I always figured that if no one wanted my babies, I would find some way to make room for them. But I understand where you're coming from. If I do decide to breed twice, that's alot of babies, and I think now I may have to consider looking into it. Mainly because Merlin is from Thailand, and the new female might as well be. I would hope they're fry don't have deformities, yet I know there will be a few. Same with Pearl and Merlins fry. This def gives me something to think about. Good post Andakin.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:20 AM   #7 
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Yes, a lot of babies die unnecessarily because the person breeding is unprepared or is not breeding in the proper sized tank. That's why research is SO important.
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:15 PM   #8 
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This was a very well though out post Andakin. I'm not sure if I myself would be able to cull (not that I will be getting into breeding), but I can respect those who choose to.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:44 PM   #9 
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this is exactly why i choose not to breed..........
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:49 PM   #10 
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I'm really against culling anything that isn't in pain. That is why I'm going to call a local family run pet store and see if they want to sell the babies, any fry that weren't suitable for breeding. This pet store takes awesome care of their animals.

I will see to it that every animal under my care gets the life/care that they deserve. ESPECIALLY if it is one that I bred.

I still have respect for those who do cull, but in a humane way only. Those who are getting knifes and chopping off their betta's heads (PM me and I'll send you the link, from another forum) do NOT deserve to breed bettas.
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