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Old 12-10-2013, 04:50 PM   #11 
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Prime will help detoxify ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates, though they will still show up on water tests. It can be used at up to 5 times the normal dose to keep levels down between water changes, but I think it's only active for a day or two. When I was cycling my tank I did partial water changes every 2-3 days and added extra Prime on the other days. My tank was cycled within two weeks, though the plants probably helped with that.
Thank you for your response! :) I was using the Stability. I just recently bought the Prime and used it yesterday for the partial change for the first time. Thank you so much for mentioning that it will show up still on the tests though. I wish that these things items would mention that! I will use it again tomorrow for another change and test. I know nothing about plants...that is a whole new beast for me! My children won this fish at a festival...so I have been so overwhelmed and wanting to do what's best. (Who gives live animals away!?!?!?!)
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Old 12-10-2013, 04:56 PM   #12 
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Use Prime (2-drops/gal) every day while your tank is cycling, and with every water change. More conservative keepers recommend you keep your ammonia and nitrie below 0.50ppm by doing 50% water changes (with Prime). In other words, change 50% of your water whenever ammonia or nitrite rise above 0.50ppm. That will be your water change schedule. After your ammonia and nitrite reach 0.0ppm, change 50% weekly for the life of the tank.

Stop using salt as soon as the ammonia and nitrite decrease to 0.0ppm. Don't worry about nitrate.

NOTE to experienced keepers of a conservative inclination. I recently cleaned and re-cycled a 3g tank. I again found ammonia readings between 0.0ppm and 0.25ppm hard to distinguish (residual ammonia and all). I realized the difficulty new keepers might experience trying to interpret these low readings. My ammonia conversion chart indicates that 0.50ppm @ 7.6pH is below the 0.020ppm danger cutoff for free ammonia. So from now on I'll be recommending a 50% water change at 0.50ppm ammonia and 0.50ppm nitrite.

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Thank you for your advice. I have done as much research as possible and have found so many conflicting things myself. I truly just want what is best. These little creatures aren't as easy as the furry kind. :) I will definitely keep using both the Prime and Stability for each change until the cycle is finished. I had read about cycling but just truly didn't understand it...and honestly still don't really. Just hoping it's done soon. :)
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:52 PM   #13 
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(Who gives live animals away!?!?!?!)
Well at least it isn't a goldfish.

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Old 12-11-2013, 11:22 AM   #14 
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Well at least it isn't a goldfish.

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LOL! I'm still scarred from childhood about the goldfish I won at a fair that died 3 days later...
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Ok...when should these numbers start to go down? I just tested again (2 days later from OP)

ammonia is the only thing that went down to about .25
Nitrite is still off the charts dark dark purple so I'm guessing 5.0 again
Nitrate went up I think!!!! :( To 10ppm from 5.0ppm

UGH! I just did another partial water change and added the stability and prime to it. (with a little extra prime)

My little guy is still his fiesty little self. Eating well and swimming like normal. I just hate that he is stressed with this water stuff. *sigh*
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:18 PM   #16 
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It's normal for nitrite and nitrates to go up as ammonia goes down. Now that your ammonia is lower, nitrites should start to go down. What's happening is that bacteria #1 converts ammonia to nitrite, then bacteria #2 converts nitrite to nitrate. Right now you have a whole bunch of the first bacteria, but your second is still growing.

Live plants help keep water clean because they use ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates as fertilizer, but they also require extra care.
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:06 AM   #17 
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It's normal for nitrite and nitrates to go up as ammonia goes down. Now that your ammonia is lower, nitrites should start to go down. What's happening is that bacteria #1 converts ammonia to nitrite, then bacteria #2 converts nitrite to nitrate. Right now you have a whole bunch of the first bacteria, but your second is still growing.

Live plants help keep water clean because they use ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates as fertilizer, but they also require extra care.
THANK YOU! That helps so much! I just didn't understand! What do you think about moss balls?
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I don't think moss balls do much for the water since they are so slow growing, but they are pretty cute. They also don't really require any care.
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