Long story short I responded to an ad on craigslist for a free betta set-up everything included plus extras you can search my thread it explains how the womens little 4 year old girl took the betta out of the tank and threw it on the floor. The week after that I saw another ad on craigslist for a fish tank for $5 bucks plus get a free betta I couldn't turn down so I picked it up and the betta was next to dead it had all kinds of problems if you search for my thread it has pics and all the details...I saved that poor guy. Now I went last night and picked up another 5g tank for $4 bucks with a free betta and extra tank free so that makes 3 VT's and I bought 2 CT's from petsmart as well because I always get extra tanks from these real nice people when I pick up these fish I'm buying/saving. Thanks for all the great info on this site I went from a betta noob to being able to care for 5 bettas at once no problem.